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Question to you all - Fletcher - 10-06-2011
With my recent completion of Bastion in New Game+, this time thanks to my alcohol content, its making me rethink the meaning and deepness of the ending at hand.
Basically, I'll break it down as this.
The world got destroyed thanks to the 'cold war' thinking between two major powers. The world had some survivors, including yourself.
You manage to bring some survivors into a safe haven, or Bastion. You keep on fighting, but suddenly learn that your leaders brought the disaster in the first place, turning your thinking upside down.
In the end, you manage to get the pieces together to have the opportunity to do one of two things thanks to the people you saved.
- Restore the world, at the cost of forgetting all your struggles, your sacrifices and the sin caused that landed you in the position you're in. Basically, a hard reset of the world, with the gamble that the disaster, will never happen again.
- The other option is to take the people, and the power you have to find a new home, a new place to settle, learning from the mistakes caused by the disasters prior. The problem being, millions of lives will never be saved.
I honestly can't choose either of the options above if it came to me. On one hand, I'd save millions of lives save the world, at the risk this will all happen again.
On the other hand, I leave the world, learn from the mistakes and start a new world, with the hopes of creating a better role for humanity.
Question to you all - Loken - 10-06-2011
LALALA Spoilers. Sorry, can't read your post because I haven't finished it yet. Q_Q
Question to you all - Fetch - 10-06-2011
The past is the past, leave it that way. Restoration could likely devolve into an endlessly repeating cycle. What has happened, has happened, make of it what you can.
Bastion is a great game.
Question to you all - Jeremy Hunter - 10-06-2011
I'd do a hard restart and save lives.
Nothing ever happens the same way twice.
Question to you all - Agmen of Eladesor - 10-06-2011
' Wrote:I'd do a hard restart and save lives.
Nothing ever happens the same way twice.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat themselves.
Point being - you're not saving those lives. Even if you have some miracle time machine that allows you to loop yourself back - if you cannot change anything in the past, then it's pretty much going to be a closed loop. If you can get a little bit of information back into the past (Hey, don't push the red button on July 1st!) then it MAY be worth it.
However - and this is the fun thing to think about - doing a hard reset may also end up making things WORSE! What happens if you reset, and things start to blow up again - and you CAN'T get survivors into the Bastion? Oops - you're totally screwed, now, aren't you?
(Language in the link below - so don't play it too loud at work!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
You're comments on the second choice - saving those lives - is incorrect. You're not saving anyone. Those lives are LOST. GONE. POOF. At best, you'd be restoring them - and at the same time, restoring the same situation that made them go bye-bye in the first place.
Question to you all - Cameron - 10-06-2011
If the lesson has not been taught, nothing has been learned.
Question to you all - Treewyrm - 10-06-2011
Possibly spoiler ahead.
Completed it a while ago. To be honest I haven't found much depth about the choice in the end. Because there isn't really any choice. It seem pretty clear that you can't prevent calamity from happening as the kid wakes up after it happened, not prior. Since all memory of what to come would be wiped there is no way knowing ahead the weapon would backfire. It is also somewhat implied that kid has been in that loop of struggle already and the only way is to let it go. The only actual choice is whether to save Zulf or not.
Question to you all - Linkus - 10-06-2011
Quick thing to think about.
There have been numerous wars throughout history.
We always say that we'll learn from it and not repeat our mistakes.
Regardless of if you left the world or not, there will still be more wars and more death.