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Armageddon - Makc_RU - 01-08-2012
I am watching Armageddon for the 100th time. The scene where the 2 shuttles fly towards the comet and one is destroyed. There is a body flying in space and hits the second shuttle cockpit windows.
The quetion:
Would the frozen body actually shatter instead of "gently bumping off" of the shuttle? When we freeze objects in liquid nitrogen, they're easily shattered.
movie mistake, i guess...
Do i get a cookie for being observant?
Armageddon - William Frederick Cody - 01-08-2012
It would take some time, until the body is cooled down that much.
Armageddon - Makc_RU - 01-08-2012
well, how much time should pass? I mean absolute zero is pretty damn cold and the human body is not that big...
Armageddon - Doom - 01-08-2012
i have worked with such low temperatures (not so low though) and i also can confirm that cooling doesn't happen so fast.
Body may not be so big but its isolated with the suit he was in...but even if he was naked, cooling/freezing would not be instantaneous...that is old movie myth....
Armageddon - Makc_RU - 01-08-2012
<--I must watch less movies !!!
Armageddon - Marburg - 01-08-2012
the long answer is: it's just hollywood & there are rules...such as everyone is hot from the supermodels to the burger flippers. All phone numbers contain a '555' prefix. When the wind blows on a woman, it always blows from the front; even in mixed comany. Sound carries in space, ect. I could go on, but naw.
Armageddon - Makc_RU - 01-08-2012
rrriiight:)
As for the 555 prefixes, it is easily explainable. Do you ,guys, know how many tards are here in USA? Lets take SCREAM, a very popular movie. If there would be a phone number with real prefix, I bet that thousands of teens would call that number with different pranks. God forbid someone would have such number.
Another example is when first Fast and Furious came out. We actually had police cars patrolling the roads around movie theaters in the evening after each movie is over, because idiots would spin the wheel and do all sorts of crap.
I did find a mistake though, or should I say another Hollywood poopy. The scene where the asteroid hits Paris. Everything is destroyed except the Triumphant Gates. ( i don't know what they're called) The movie shows them standing right near the crater... I say, i get a cookie for this one:)
Armageddon - r3vange - 01-08-2012
' Wrote:I am watching Armageddon for the 100th time. The scene where the 2 shuttles fly towards the comet and one is destroyed. There is a body flying in space and hits the second shuttle cockpit windows.
The quetion:
Would the frozen body actually shatter instead of "gently bumping off" of the shuttle? When we freeze objects in liquid nitrogen, they're easily shattered.
movie mistake, i guess...
Do i get a cookie for being observant?
[color=#FFFFFF]It would shatter, but the whole scene with the shuttles is riddiculous when you put physics behind it, an object has to travel with 7.5 km per second to be in low Earth orbit. So at that speed 70kg frozen block will pretty much destroy the shuttle too.
![[Image: 482px-Space_debris_impact_on_Space_Shuttle_window.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Space_debris_impact_on_Space_Shuttle_window.jpg/482px-Space_debris_impact_on_Space_Shuttle_window.jpg)
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That crater was made by a fleck of paint...
Armageddon - AndrzejB - 01-08-2012
' Wrote:It would take some time, until the body is cooled down that much.Probably a lot of time (I assume that body was supposed to be frozen because of being exposed to vacuum). You need to transfer the heat into something. What was around that body had negligent density. Specific heat capacity is per unit of mass. Vacuum (Dewar) flask, anyone?
Radiating heat into space is not that easy. Check those large radiators International Space Station has (large, flat things similar to the solar panels but of different color). In fact, you need a lot of energy to get rid of energy (heat).
Don't worry, I hate thermodynamics too. :-)
Armageddon - Ursus - 01-08-2012
If they were synchronous orbit the relative speed would be what mattered