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don't know - sgrana - 04-11-2008
Right so its been a weird day for me(shane) so i was wondering around new york thinking and i came up to the junker base behind manhatten, not really paying attention when a harvester starts attacking me i glance at chat history and there's the statment about zoner detected, harvest iniciated or something like that all correct and proper.
So i blow him away no prob then i get this message from a Kabaal about me distroying the harvester and he opens fire, my shelds are almost gone and i had already used all my batts so i give a warning over comms and return fire now i'm in a cap ship Albatross bc so in nothing flat his shields are gone and he's about to clock out so i cease fire to see if he will flee or surender, he dosent so i open fire again just before he dies i scan him and he's in a mining ship so bang cap ship and freighter/transport rule broken.
the second thing i notice is he has a civilian id and he's above 40(sorry no screenshot) or i'm pretty sure it's civ id just get a flash of it as he dies (medium range fire so i had already stoped fireing but it's time on target. zoner cruiser guns) so second violation.
Am i right or wrong if so and an admin reads this take it as a report please and do your duty and fine or what ever
don't know - ryoken - 04-11-2008
The admin's will do nothing without a screenor witness. sorry.
don't know - sgrana - 04-11-2008
Ah i have every thing to lose but i'm turning myself in so do i really need screenies for that.
Thats why i didn't do it in the report section.
don't know - Cyberanson - 04-11-2008
The character of Kabaal was controlled by me. I apologize for any inconvenience!
The intention was: As Kabaal is the name of the corrupted ship AI, it feels familiar with the Harvesters and their behaviour. But more later on...
Right now I can't remember if I have had a proper ID at this time, but I was sure that I had one.
In order to avoid events like this in the future I have several questions:
Quote:so bang cap ship and freighter/transport rule broken.I read the rule several times, but it seems like I'm blind or something. What describes the official rule, referring to your words?
Furthermore (and here the problem with Kabaal): As long this is a RP server, people are encouraged to create their very own characters, but that brings me into struggle: What has to be first? The character on the server, who acts like I want him to act within the rules and RP, or the character at the board, so that everybody at the server knows who and how to talk to?
Sorry again.
don't know - Jinx - 04-11-2008
when he opened fire on you and took your shields down by 50% or more - or fired when your shields were down - then you have a right to defend yourself. i m not familiar with the mining ship in terms of how much firepower it has.
anyway - if he was assisting the harvesters that can attack zoners regardless of capship or not, then he has to take the consequence for it. ( like when a lvl1 is grouped with a lvl90, and the level 90 pirates a trader, the trader is allowed to take out the level 1, too, cause they are grouped and in the same battle )
if the mining ship was not grouped with the harvester - but still opened fire within the same battle you had with the harvesters, - it should count as the exception in which you re able to defend yourself, cause the harvesters had started the battle.
if there had been time between the two battles - and your shields had been replenished enough, it would be a different battle and the mining ship would have to take your shields down by 50% by itself to count as a valid encounter to defend yourself.
so its very much up to how the situation was presented to you. - was it one battle, two battles, has the mining ship the firepower to actually work your shields down itself? has it attacked when your shields were down? etc.
don't know - sgrana - 04-11-2008
No same battle and yep more than enough fire power to take what little shields i had down competely as well as eat into my hull. Thx jinx for clearing the matter up I just didn't want to break the rules and then ignore the incident and get caught later.
don't know - skoko - 04-11-2008
' Wrote:So i blow him away no prob then i get this message from a Kabaal about me distroying the harvester and he opens fire, my shelds are almost gone and i had already used all my batts so i give a warning over comms and return fire now i'm in a cap ship Albatross bc so in nothing flat his shields are gone and he's about to clock out so i cease fire to see if he will flee or surender, he dosent so i open fire again just before he dies i scan him and he's in a mining ship so bang cap ship and freighter/transport rule broken.
Well I think you did everything right... You warned him over comms to stop...you gave him time to withdraw, which is very rare... and then you killed him... Nothing wrong IMO...
On the other hand i would like to see less Harvesters in NY just because we have enough caps in NY without them... In the last week every time i logged on my SA char i saw Harvester....
don't know - Cyberanson - 04-14-2008
' Wrote:Furthermore (and here the problem with Kabaal): As long this is a RP server, people are encouraged to create their very own characters, but that brings me into struggle: What has to be first? The character on the server, who acts like I want him to act within the rules and RP, or the character at the board, so that everybody at the server knows who and how to talk to?Is anybody abled to answer this question?
don't know - me_b_kevin - 04-14-2008
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' Wrote:Is anybody abled to answer this question?
if i understood your meaning correctly, my advice is to play your character how you imagine him to be, with in the rules of course, and try to get your ID and TAG sorted so that it best reflects your character.
don't know - Reverend Del - 04-14-2008
' Wrote:Is anybody abled to answer this question?To quote Mwerte on this matter Ingame RP > Forum RP. It is a good idea to have a character biography wirtten down, but it isn't essential work.