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Offline Jack_Henderson
09-03-2013, 04:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-03-2013, 04:48 PM by Jack_Henderson.)
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**** SENDER: Laura Huntington ****

**** TO: The Flares ****




This is Laura Huntington, IMG Tau Defense section. I just entered a fight in T37 in which I saw a Flare. Knowing that the Flares take IMG money, I of course assumed that they were on my side.

I was surprised to learn that the ship named Silver!.Flare was assisting the Outcast forces and soon I found myself in a situation where I was in that confrontation, too.

So, I am confused. And this is your chance to explain a few things. I haven't done a report to the IMG Guildcomms yet because my ship was downed and I am stuck at the Freeport at the moment, so you got some time to make me understand what this was.

I cannot believe you take IMG money and Outcast money at the same time. So.... what happened out there?

Yours sincerely

Laura Huntington
Tau Defense



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Offline Achilies
09-04-2013, 01:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-04-2013, 08:48 PM by Achilies.)
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*****Incoming message*****
*****Sender : Ivan Hernandez*****
*****Rank : Senate*****
*****Location : Freeport 10*****

Greets cutie,been a long time since we last spoke....among doing other things...but anyway,you aint drunk at the moment so down to business.
I believe i should give you the explanation because the direct [-=XTF=-] involvement in it.
How should i begin...Lets start with a bit of history.You see about a few months ago when we were protecting our cardi supply routes to Liberty...no not from you,dont worry...we struck a lucrative deal involving slaves,drugs and other....commodities *winks*,with a smuggler when we were on Buffalo base . The deal was pretty good but the bad news was that it was too good....even so we couldnt leave the system without checking it out.We met with the smuggler near Ithaca and a moment later our convoy of 3 transports and 6 fighters ended up ambushed by 5 Navy carriers and 10 of their fighters.
My guys fought out and downed 2 fighters but we also lost 1 transport and 1 of our recruit pilots.Then out of nowhere,guess who appeared ? Thats right,the little Flares,having been just created, in their bombers and looking for a fight.Navy kids were trigger-happy and shot them at the moment they came out from the lane....bad call for the Navy eh?...cuz guess who got beaten to a pulp after a 2 hour fight.
We thanked the dudes...they seemed pleasant enough...
A week later one of our patrols spotted a massing of Navy near Fort Bush,we went to check it out and saw them grinding down the Flares's bots 1 by 1....The end result after we joined in was obvious ofcourse.
After that incident we became friends with em....for a short while... until they decided to accept work from you and your other cute readheads....god only knows how you pay em,cuz lets face it,you are broke as a church mouse.
Still....they did help us in Liberty...so we decided on making a treaty of a kind.
In it,it states that if there are pilots with the [-=XTF=-] tag in a fight somewhere , who are ready to pay for the Flares's services on the moment and in cash,the objectives and orders of the [-=XTF=-] OVERRULE ANY AND ALL OTHER BOUNTIES.
That is what happened in the last fight...and quite frankly you are lucky to have gotten off with only 1 of them joining in,be grateful that I didnt feel it necessary...after all you were only twice our numbers......*takes a long smoke from his cardi cigar*.....phew,god that was a long explanation....gota go to the toilet.
*Ivan hears a voice from his left side*-OMG,ZOMG,WTF YOU DOING????
Now im in trouble.....
[-=XTF=-]_Achilies signing off. *kisses*

*****TRANSMISSION TERMINATED*****
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Offline Jack_Henderson
09-04-2013, 05:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-04-2013, 05:35 PM by Jack_Henderson.)
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**** SENDER: Laura Huntington ****

**** TO: The Channel Invader ****




Hey, you little chauvinist prick who thinks that he can answer me instead of the people I addressed. Anyway, let me quickly thank you for your fairy tale hour, I enjoy bedtime stories after a fight. Liberty ones are the best.

So... that we have clarified that, how about you get me a Flare leader on the comms unit and then head back to your toilet to celebrate how great you are? Would be nice.

Thank you and see you next time around Java. Mind the guns. They might blow off what you need for your chauvinist attitude.

Kisses. Oh... forget it. I'd kiss a prickly Gaian Wildlife but not you.

Laura Huntington
Tau Defense



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Spike Seadra
09-04-2013, 07:31 PM,
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*Oscar comes back to the bar after toilet*

Erhm......

*He sees Ivan talking to some one on camera and comes a bit more closer for better look*

What in the sirus !

*Hears Ivan running away to toilet*

Come back here ! *Shouts, scolds and insults ivan but he managed to escape*
You idiot ! I'll take care of you later.....

*Looks at the camera again*

Oishie....*Rubs his eyes*......so its miss Laura again

*Coughs*

*Plays back the transmission video of Laura*

Ok....*Starts the camera and speaks*

Well "Hello" again ?
Obviously, i'll deal with this issue my self
I have received your transmission and hereby talks on behalf flares
First off all, i would like to apologize if Ivan said any thing to you.....i was in toilet while left the camera here.....now to the situation
So what do you say ? I accepted cash from outcasts ? well that can't be true but if you say i accepted cash from XTF then i'll agree because its true

I am sorry i didn't let the Guild knew about this earlier, i was quite busy hunting in Liberty since few days but ok
Flares have some "Green" reputation with the pilots of Xtreme Fighters, yes only them which excludes the other maltese like CL}, [10st] and ofc' indies.

*Gets serious*

Before you say something, i'll clear the things out first
I was assisting XTF pilots against Colonials, Flares are not friendly to the Colonial Republic, we told this to the IMG during our registration on your board and ofc' the agreement was made on "Not to use IMG bases for launching attacks or docking when being shoot down by bunters, bretonians or republic"

Now i do remember what happened, i was shooting my precious targets known as "Republics" along side with XTF......injuries and deaths were taken from both sides, although one of the colonial's cruiser went down too

***Sends some Guncams***

*Cruiser Down*

Then suddenly you came up and started shooting me by telling these messages :


Quote:[03.09.2013 17:47:30] IMG|Laura.Huntington: IMG coming to support
[03.09.2013 17:47:33] IMG|Laura.Huntington: Engaging the enemy


As far as i remember, Flares are not the "Enemies" of Guild, you should've shoot your hostiles, not allies

*Giggles a bit*

I barely survived and docked at Freeport, glad that i am fine but your bullets shocked me
Even after i said :

Quote:[03.09.2013 17:49:19] Silver!.Flare: Since when IMG shoots flares ?

But you didn't gave a reply and your bullets were continued to hit my ship
Actually i don't care about this but its such a foolishness
Flares receive the right to shoot any of their bountied targets they want at anytime and anywhere.......we shoot Colonials and we shoot Maltese too (Excluding XTF)
Its our choice to pick the targets and Le shoot ! But this does not mean we shoot Colonials at the time when IMG and Colonials are fighting outcasts, in those moments we shoot Outcasts but in the absence of IMG we can shoot colonials
Similarly we don't shoot XTF and ofc' shoot Colonials when XTF are around, if both the parties (IMG and XTF) are fighting in a same battle then Flares wont joining that fight.

Flares did not harm the guild, eventually you joined the fight when colonials were retreating while i was fighting since the beginning

Thats what happened out there.....oh and yes, i am at Freeport too since the fight i can't see you in the bar

*Moves his neck and looks around for Laura but couldn't be seen on sight*

*Sighs* Well ok, Ivan must be coming back soon, though

I am looking forward to see you.

Your sincerely,
Silver.Flare
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Offline Achilies
09-04-2013, 08:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-04-2013, 08:49 PM by Achilies.)
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*****Incoming message*****
*****Sender : Ivan Hernandez*****
*****Rank : Senate*****
*****Location : Freeport 10*****

*Ivan turns on the comms all worked up and breathing hard*
See what you did now Laura?Now hes angry at me...
*Oscars voice comes from the other side of the locked door*
COME BACK HERE YOU!!! I will castrate you if its the last thing i do on this station!
*Ivan thinks*
Time to get outa dodge...

[-=XTF=-]_Achilies signing off. *kisses*

*****TRANSMISSION TERMINATED*****
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Offline Jack_Henderson
09-05-2013, 12:23 AM,
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**** SENDER: Jack Henderson ****

**** TO: Channel Recipients ****




Jack Henderson, IMG Operations Coordinations speaking.

I think it is better if I take over from here. Ms. Huntington did well in bringing this to my attention and in trying a clarification, but I assume it's better for us to clarify the rest before this ends in duels.

I am a realist and I have my goals to achieve.
I don't mind if you do the same.
What we have is a business relationship.
And business is never clean and idealists are misplaced here anyway.

Consequently, I won't comment on the stated fact that you think of XTF as friends/allies of your group. You know what I think about this, but my personal opinion doesn't matter here, nor does it matter for the deal we have as long as the goals are met.

Numbers confirm that you have been hunting the other Outcast groups and this is what the IMG is interested in.

We both know that this weird diplomatic positioning will lead to confrontations in the field. Ms. Huntington just poked the hornets' nest for the first time, but we know it will likely happen more often.

Consequently this is my suggestion about how we can avoid having this conversation after each confrontation:

You chose to work for IMG. You chose to work with XTF. Consequencly, as long as you realize that the Flares are responsible for any incidents in which they get fired at by IMG Defense pilots in brawls, I can live with this.

It is your pilots' risk as professionals to deal with being shot at, even if it is by my pilots. Don't expect IMG Defense to stand down. When your bomber is called as a target by e.g. a Colonial fighting group again, my IMG will attack it. And I will do nothing to prevent it. The one who fights on the wrong side has to expect to be shot at.

As long as your pilots do not actively engage IMG, you do not break our contract. If you do, swift consequences follow and you will lose more than one of the best employers.

If you can live with the messy situations that your diplomatic stance will doubtlessly create sometimes, our deal stands.

Jack Henderson
IMG Operations Coordination



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Spike Seadra
09-05-2013, 10:47 PM,
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*Blinks*



Greetings Jack
Glad to see the Guild are handling the situation better
Anyways.....erhm

I see you speak of our business relation which is sort of true. We are friendly to Xtreme Fighters and shooting Colonials in favour of XTF is something which bugs IMG
As i have already mentioned in my previous transmission, we are only good with XTF which does not include other Maltese People, this means we do shoot the CL} and other Outcasts.

Now as for your new treaty, i have already discussed it with other Flares and we have decided to agree/sign this treaty
However, we have some conditions on which the Guild should agree first....... The IMG will only shoot Flares if they are fighting colonials along side of XTF and Flares will shoot IMG back only in self-defense
But keep in mind we just don't shoot Colonials because of XTF, If Flares are spotted alone shooting Colonials for the sake of Gallia then Guild shall not interfere.

XTF and Flares have a good relation which will not be corrupted due to other business issues......we collect bounties from both sides, not just the CR.
Colonials
Outcasts

Now, if the Guild agrees on this treaty then Flares give a green light to the business diplomacy.....i await for your reply.



~Silver.Flare



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Offline Jack_Henderson
09-06-2013, 09:06 AM,
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**** SENDER: Jack Henderson ****

**** TO: Channel Recipients ****




Alright, Mister Oscar.

To make it short and to make sure I got the main part you mentioned:

The IMG does not attack Flares if they are not flying together with the XTF group.
If it all comes down to conflict between IMG and Flares, everybody tries to stay alive and win and we try to stay off each others' throats. But it is a fight, it may happen.

I have to mention one exception: If Flares hit a Colonial Mover transport vessel or any other Colonial civilian ship, IMG will engage. We defend the civilian population and despise cowardice.

If this is shortened summary and the exceptions work for you, that's it.

Jack Henderson
IMG Operations Coordination



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Spike Seadra
09-06-2013, 10:47 PM,
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Mr. Jack,
The Guild actually want the Flares not to shoot Colonials but i am afraid this won't happen, we deal with those who talk to us in our language.....the one who pays more will receive our guns, whereas bullets will hit the one who pays less

Bretonia is at war with Gallia, these Colonial Pests help Bretonia and shoot down the Royalists.....furthermore, they are causing too much trouble in the taus for our precious business partners known as the "EFL"

If you really talk about "Defending the civilian population" then why not just tell the CR not to shoot Gallians ?
We shoot down the Colonials because of Gallia but we also shoot them when they attack our allies and our allies need firepower.

Although, we are Freelancer Mercenaries, none of our diplomacy is permenant... We can change at any time we want, but no harm is done to our business partners that will go unpunished.

The Colonials attacked the Flares several times in Bretonia and so we retaliated, we don't do show mercy for any one who is on our hitlist,

Now as for your reply, we will shoot any Colonial Pilot on sight, transports may be ignored if the IMG is in range but the fighting wings won't.
If we attack their transports then feel free to shoot us back but bear in mind we'll retaliate in self-defense, after that there should be no complaints made by the IMG about their people being shot at.

In our eyes, the cash made from death is in fact more important than death itself,

*Drinks a glass of water*

That's all for now........



~Silver.Flare



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Offline Jack_Henderson
09-07-2013, 08:59 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-07-2013, 09:07 AM by Jack_Henderson.)
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**** SENDER: Jack Henderson ****

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You got yourself a deal.

It's not the prettiest and cleanest of all deals, but also far from being the worst.

Good hunting. I bet that with everybody except the IMG bountied in the Taus and the Outcast civil war, you will have a lot to do.

Jack Henderson
IMG Operations Coordination



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