Jump Trading

[VinitS]

I think you are new, Other caps like BS and carrier jump cargo ships using JD4 which jump all ships standing near that cap which have JD4 and activate jump, that's how it works , BS don't carry cargo for trade ofc
~Devil

Oh..this i didn't know...so we can work to make an RP with it....a Battleship Providing Jump Services From Fixed points....to traders...for certain amount of fee.

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VinitS#1081 - Discord

[Lythrilux]

Don't jump trade, please. Although it's super profitable, it creates negative impacts for the server.
Be a good player and trade around normally.

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[Sath]

I won't ask you not to jump trade. Just don't do it all day long, everyday and make the lives of pirates miserable. Do it when you need money urgentlly.

[VinitS]

I won't ask you not to jump trade. Just don't do it all day long, everyday and make the lives of pirates miserable. Do it when you need money urgentlly.

i agree to this..

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VinitS#1081 - Discord

[Rebirth]

I won't ask you not to jump trade. Just don't do it all day long, everyday and make the lives of pirates miserable. Do it when you need money urgentlly.

+1

[Gulryz]

I think you are new, Other caps like BS and carrier jump cargo ships using JD4 which jump all ships standing near that cap which have JD4 and activate jump, that's how it works , BS don't carry cargo for trade ofc
~Devil

Oh..this i didn't know...so we can work to make an RP with it....a Battleship Providing Jump Services From Fixed points....to traders...for certain amount of fee.

While jumping in houses you need License to jump from governments where to jump from and where to jump to
~Devil

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You can ignore reality but you can not ignore consequences of ignoring reality

[Hermes]

I won't ask you not to jump trade. Just don't do it all day long, everyday and make the lives of pirates miserable. Do it when you need money urgentlly.

+1 for your post from me.

Actually, not everyone have the ability to buy a BS and not everyone have the ability to buy a JD and not everyone have the enough friends to help and not always they are free to be a fuel transport for you and not everyone have a Jumping coordinates and not everyone have a survey module to get coordinate to jump !!!

take it easy, its not easy anyway to jump trade and nothing bad about doing it from time to time from those who are capable of doing it

Note: if admins and dev team see that removing the JDs will make the community better, then they would have done it long time ago - take it easy , its not ruining the server as much as other things like .... Meta gamers or Teamspeak squads.

regards,
Xenon

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[VinitS]

I won't ask you not to jump trade. Just don't do it all day long, everyday and make the lives of pirates miserable. Do it when you need money urgentlly.

+1 for your post from me.

Actually, not everyone have the ability to buy a BS and not everyone have the ability to buy a JD and not everyone have the enough friends to help and not always they are free to be a fuel transport for you and not everyone have a Jumping coordinates and not everyone have a survey module to get coordinate to jump !!!

take it easy, its not easy anyway to jump trade and nothing bad about doing it from time to time from those who are capable of doing it

Note: if admins and dev team see that removing the JDs will make the community better, then they would have done it long time ago - take it easy , its not ruining the server as much as other things like .... Meta gamers or Teamspeak squads.

regards,
Xenon

thumbs up...for the explanation... Now i am thinking for Flash Raid in New york or New Berlin......Whole Fleet Jumping In with multiple BShips...and an Epic Battle..it will be awesome..

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VinitS#1081 - Discord

[Zen_Mechanics]

Jump all day long, from rheinland to texas - until devs bring back the gates to bering. I'd park a drive in berlin and gather folks.

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[Binski]

It is legal I think but people don't like
~Devil

Its quite liked by the people involved. The only one's suffering (occasionally at that) might be pirates, however, since this happens not exactly on a routine schedule for everyone, its hard to pin a group down when they're gathering for a jump.

Jump trade if you like man, its expensive, and like most things, you EARN it when you achieve everything necessary to make it happen, which is not easy. Don't think you MUST every time take the slow way to appease other players. People that jump trade, don't do it all the time, there's always other players involved in conventional shipping. The point of jump trading is to get sh*t done without needing to be constantly exposed to pirates who just want barge kills because they're rare (and that's if a barge is even involved). Which is why I also wrote this post yesterday.

As a pirate/junker that has been in on a few jump trades now (just as an escort), if you can find group of ships preparing to jump, it would be very easy to disrupt them, they can't move and need to stay within 500m of the jumping ship.

If I were a pirate who wanted to go after jump convoys, I might go looking for some intel on groups doing this, what ships they use, and where. That takes some rooting, nothing $$$ won't solve for you if you look in the right places.

For the sake of pirates and lawfuls, please trade like it was designed before the jump devices. You will create traffic and attract pirates who in return will attract lawfuls and so everyone will have reasons to log.

Anyone who'd tell you not to do something in the game, that is a feature of the game, and is well within the rules, should not be saying that to you. That's like saying 'Don't use jumpholes, its bad for everyone (just Lane Hackers actually who's RP revolves around trade lane piracy, whom you will find have a lot of bias about this subject). These are like railroad bandits trying to scare people out of flying now that its available, because they will have less to do. 99% of traders in the game are not jumping, relax.

Its not impossible to attack a jump convoy either. If you see a large group in a system via the chat, and they're there for a while, then all disappear to a system on the other side of Sirius, they jumped. Bam, you then know who. Next you observe where. You shouldn't be able to just fly up to any serious operation and be like '3 mil or die'. If you want to pirate Jumpers, it just takes WORK. Almost as if it were 'real' you need to do your homework before you plan such a raid. Any groups you suspect are jump trading often can't hide it forever. Don't just assume its all done in secret and no one could ever possibly find them.

I think I'm aiming this at the same people that think traders should only be able to use lanes, and drop the BS scanner range because it 'kills lane piracy' because they think Freelancer is only about pirating in a bomber while blocking a lane or gate, who think you shouldn't have to move around looking for other players, and that they should just come to them. I guess traders are only supposed to play to be someone else's target, and not to make money. Go move around Snak3, did the BS scanner reduction work the miracles for lane piracy you'd hoped?

That's the point of the technology, and I can't stand it when people crap on good things about this game, that take it way beyond vanilla with the FUN factor. Cloaks, JD's etc They're all awesome! When you have a dozen ships gather for a jump, A) you'll need more than just a bomber to hold up a large group, which would be just as hard if they weren't jumping, and B) Everyone involved loves getting in on jumps, the ease of fast travel etc. is a real treat. I'm a pirate mostly and I don't even think pirates should be favored when it comes to Jump trading. I found some people that jump, made friends with them, and they let me jump too! Its actually way more fun than trying to be a ***** and pirate them instead.

And I have to laugh because I've also escorted at least half a dozen conventional Junkers convoys, of at least 8 ships per time mostly salvagers and liners, out of Liberty to Alpha in the last month or more. Yet no one even pirated them, not when I was with them. Did I scare them away? Or perhaps large numbers deter pirates most of the time anyways. So a jump trader thats jumping 1 ship for trading purposes, if you miss out on pirating them, pfft. That's nothing. Oh that's right, 'Don't trade in large convoys, thats also bad for pirates'. RFOL.

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