Why FL economics does not work

[The Savage]

@Arcano
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I experienced it myself many times, as usual attitude of many skilled players on Disco is that "your silly roleplay doesn't matter on Disco, only blues do".

[Swallow]

Lock this please.

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FL MOD(EL)MAKING: TOOLS, RESOURCES, TUTORIALS AND MY SHIPS (OLD)

I am on discord: Roal-Yr#5994, I don't log on forum more than a few times a year.

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https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
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[Croft]

I think the thread may yet be salvaged Swallow.

The main points have already been covered, if not a little lost in the murky depths of the thread but the overall goal is clear enough. The question becomes if the outcome will be the one desired. Bluntly put, by adding any form of mandatory credit sink you are creating a demand upon the player to dedicate a certain amount of time in order to continue playing. The closer the input and output of credits becomes, the greater the requirement upon the player.

This can be disguised, as Lyth rightly put it, by making credit earning an enjoyable task with more varied ways of making credits making the system less noticable. At the moment we have roughly four ways of generating credits: Mining, Trading, Smuggling and Missions. Unfortunately this list is also some of the more boring roles within Disco with the latter two avoiding interactions completely. Unless we can make these methods more fun, or add other forms of income any overly noticable credit sink will likely backfire.

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[DragonRider]

Freelancer econmomics don't work because freelancer has no economy.

[Thyrzul]

Bluntly put, by adding any form of mandatory credit sink you are creating a demand upon the player to dedicate a certain amount of time in order to continue playing.

Let me disagree here with claiming that if we introduce rewards as money sinks then dedication of time will not necessarily be required to continue playing itself, only to have access to the perks one may acquire in exchange for spending their credits in said sink. Bluntly put, you could still ignore sinks and play with poor man's toys, or spend some extra time to play with some extra toys.

At the moment we have roughly four ways of generating credits: Mining, Trading, Smuggling and Missions. Unfortunately this list is also some of the more boring roles within Disco with the latter two avoiding interactions completely. Unless we can make these methods more fun, or add other forms of income any overly noticable credit sink will likely backfire.

Let me note that when discussing the nature of these roles in relation to interactions you forgot to mention that besides these there are still other activities in this game, like piracy, mercenary jobs or bounty hunting, which are not generating, only recirculating credits, but seek activity more than the ones you mentioned. At the same time we don't have to start this trend with introducing an overly noticable sink, I'm sure at first a smaller one would do just as well.

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[TheJarl]

Locked at OP's request.

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