Players Warned: Several (\^/) Members

[Luke.]

(\^/)Elysium, (\^/)Eidolon, (\^/)Aristogeiton, (\^/)Coeus have been warned for:

1.1.2 - Ganking

Consequences:

After review, staff have decided that you unnecessarily used excessive force on this occasion against a singular opponent. Please be mindful that there is a person on the opposite side as well who may want to enjoy a PvP encounter as much as you, no matter the IC hatred. Fairness should be exercised where possible. Consider yourselves warned.

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[Soban]

Hello.

Time's up.

Using this video only 3 peoples were engaging him at any point. Of the 5, two of us stayed out.
I'll also state that using the base with the same iff that the people you attack/pirate is somewhat stupid but well.

We got a call of the DTR undocking from freeport 11 and pirating zoner.
I go and we say:
[04.08.2025 20:10:34] (\^/)Aristogeiton: CO: Contact with a Consul !
[04.08.2025 20:10:35] (\^/)Elysium: L: Not so fast


He didn't even let us make any demands and dropped this:
[04.08.2025 20:10:42] DTR-Oso: Phoenix on scannerls
[04.08.2025 20:10:54] DTR-Oso: Engaging Combat. For Crete!

In front of us.

I, (\^/)Elysium bomber, engaged at the start and disengaged to let (\^/)Eidolon replace me, due to how useless I'm.
In the end DTR was engaged by:
(\^/)Coeus Cruiser
(\^/)Aristogeiton GB
(\^/)Eidolon Bomber

So not even a single on our side was at the same class or above than his ship (BC consul).
It was a 3 v 1.
(\^/)Skotos was just watching, yet he is in the warning.

Now if that's a gank. Ok.

Then, please justify how those DTR alt on their UC ganking a GB with a GB and 2 bomber not a gank?
A VR was filled a month ago.
They just dropped 2 lines
[08.07.2025 19:42:03] UC/-Enzo_Sicilia: bogey in sight
[08.07.2025 19:42:13] UC/-Enzo_Sicilia: Time to get the money
And they don't get a nice public warning ?

[Luke.]

Your appeal is acknowledged and is currently under discussion. We will get back to you in due course.

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[EisenSeele]

We started issuing warnings because we have noticed a persistent exchange of VRs for toxic borderline behavior between DTR and Phoenix. We would like to give everyone involved a chance to try to do better on their own after being warned rather than coming out of the gate with actual sanctions.

For reference, ALL FOUR ships named in the warning were listed as they did damage to the consul - there was evidence to suggest that the Phoenix group in question logged for the express purpose of hunting the lone DTR ship down, which was excessive. We know that had the shoe been on the other foot, and a Phoenix ship had been on the receiving end of something similar, we would be hearing about it - given that you cite the previous report of a gunboat and two bombers on one of your gunboats. That report was also borderline, but much less serious given the context of the matter in which that Phoenix gunboat was part of a larger group that was explicitly looking for the UC ships AND had reinforcements en route - something which did not apply to this lone DTR ship.

We would like for this tit for tat VR exchange to stop, and we would like for everyone involved to take a step back and try to consider treating one another sportingly - the process of 'getting even' has been getting toxic for months now, and we will begin to intervene first with warnings and then with more tangible consequences to break this very unfortunate vicious cycle.

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