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Offline Doc Holliday
09-24-2009, 01:41 PM,
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*incoming transmission*
Encryption: Very High
Comm ID: [TAZ]Doc Holliday
To: Mr. George Graves, BHG Core

Mr. Graves,

I make reference to a recent, um, threat you made against the Zoners. At least, many perceive it as such.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48132
I see that you have jumped on the bandwagon of attempting to force us to choose sides in a conflict.

I'll set the record straight. The Apocalypse already approached us about the use of a base which we rejected. To do so would be not just against our neutrality with you but other factions in the area. We don't care what you beef is with them. It is your business, not ours. If you are angry with them, so be it. Don't let your anger spill onto others. I'm usually pretty laid back but I also don't take being threatened kindly.

Some time ago and I know you won't care but it will illustrate my point, the Corsairs were engaged in a civil war. It was there business and no one elses. Both sides of that conflict used our bases but were NOT allowed to conduct raids or strikes from it. If we disallowed one side to dock then we would have had to disallow the other in the fairness of neutrality.
Now, both the Core and Apocalypse are allowed to dock as they always have been. Neither side is allowed conduct operations from our bases. As with the Corsairs before you, if we deny docking to one side then we will have to for the other. As I said, we don't care what they do or what you do. That is your business. If you're going to dock then do it. Dock, go in, take a leak, get a drink, refuel and continue on.
I want to make something clear, the NFZ is not a security blanket for either side!

A quote from your initial transmission:
Quote:Allowing them to use the toilet facilities may result in your station not even having any toilets once our extreme displeasure is known. Or biodomes.
That's the threat we perceive. I do hope that was stated in a fit of anger and nothing more!

Regarding the Monkey Weirdo and Robot Planets. We don't own them. Attempted colonization of those planets failed and all settlers were lost. Hey, if you want to hang out on them, be my guest. You may well suffer the same fate as the colonist before you, a fate that was of the planet itself. Technology has well, grown on it's own there.

Mr. Graves, I do believe I made my point.

In Eris' Name,
Dr. John Henry Holliday
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Offline Athenian
09-24-2009, 04:47 PM,
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---Incoming Transmission---
--CommID: George Graves--
-Location: Capetown Station-


You sure are paranoid. And naiive. Where the hell else are these vermin going to conduct operations from? You're openly sheltering declared enemies of the Order, the Corsairs and the Core, and you decide to write me a snarky e-mail? Get a grip. What do you think that fuel will be used to power? Coffee machines? Only evil ever comes from the actions of these renegades.

The day anyone shows me a photo of damage to a Zoner base caused by one of my pilots is the day I'll tap-dance naked on Crete in front of the Benitez to the tune of "She'll Be Comin' Round the Mountains." We have better aim than that.

By the way, you're welcome. You're welcome for the repair work we did after the Keeper attacks, the patrolling of the unknown sectors that stop those damn Nomads from turning you into a new kind of novelty toy called Possessed Human, and for the restraint and good behaviour we have always shown you up until now. Oh wait, you didn't thank me. Ever.

Oh wait! I'm supposed to be thankful that you didn't give them a base or Weirdo Monkey Planet for their summer camp. I guess I should be thankful you didn't violate my parents with a probe more suited to delicate surgical procedures or that you have never assaulted my fragile genitalia with a cheese grater and a garlic press while you were at it?

Well, on behalf of my folks and "Larry, Curly and Mo", thanks.

Enclosed please find a crate of New London Ale. Just to show there's no hard feelings. I know you folks try your best to balance things. But sometimes it's impossible to sit on the fence without having a wooden post shoved somewhere unwelcome.

Now where are my pills?

Signed,

<strike>Boy George George Graves Georgey </strike> G.Graves


-End of Transmission-
--Data Connection Lost--




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Offline Doc Holliday
09-24-2009, 09:13 PM,
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Comm ID: [TAZ]Doc Holliday
To: Mr. George Graves

Paranoid? I don't think so. Naive? Not. Greatful for the repairs and protection provided to Freeport 11 after the bombing by the Keepers? Very much so.

Snarky towards you? Perhaps. When I read what I perceive as threats about "Allowing them to use the toilet facilities may result in your station not even having any toilets once our extreme displeasure is known. Or biodomes. This includes the Zoners," do want me to sit there with a smile about it? I'm not the only one who read it that way.

As I said before, we didn't give anyone of the Apocalypse Gammu, Primus or anywhere else in which to base their operations on. If someone wants to settle on Gammu, they will suffer the same fate as the colonists who died there before. Primus suffered much of the same fate.

I'll leave it like this. The Apocalypse has asked for the use of a base in which to work from which we have denied. If they are staging themselves off of that or another base then it is against that denial. I personally know very little about the Apocalypse so whatever crime they have committed, whatever case you have against them is unknown to us. I imagine that it's a private matter and I respect that.

Dr. John Henry Holliday


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Offline Jinx
09-24-2009, 09:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-24-2009, 09:35 PM by Jinx.)
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from: Persephone-II-, Elizabeth Tate
to: mr Graves

"now, you had your pills i guess and your temper is calmed down a little. - time to remember a few facts.

for years, if not decades, the guild enjoys a good relationship with the zoners. - the guild deploys some kind of power in the edgeworlds that is a nice balance to other powers. - it also makes a good living from what history tells. - more than that even, the guild accumulated enough money to finance the armsrace of the core - and still does.

additionally to that rather complex and long relationship - the core itself has used freeport 11 as a base of operations for a long time. - of course, we are ware that the fleet considered 56 and 15 their "homebase" but it is undenyable that many a core vessels would have suffered terminally if there had not been the zoners allowing them maintenance and repairs in the stations bays. - for a good price, you might say - but we zoners know that here in the edgeworlds.... credits are only a secondary currency. - trust is a primary currency.

now the problem about that is that sirius credits are easy to earn. - sirius credits get you a far far way - but not far enough. - trust and reputation is a currency earned a lot harder than sirius credits - but as life is unfair, it is a currency spent a lot quicker than credits.

here in the edgeworlds - everyone needs friends. - space stations are fragile, as we zoners had to learn the hard way when bomber destroyed freeport 7 - and nomad battlegroups severely damaged freeport 11 two years ago.

so - the guild might have got a station in delta now that they consider a solid bridgehead. - but truth be told.... such a station is a fragile structure. - and it is a good advice not to loose all ... "friends" in a place where you re otherwise surrounded by.... "enemies". - that could so easily destroy all your organizations effords in this sector.



by threatening zoners based on some internal affair of yours - you are spending primary currency..... trust. once you have spent too much of it - the term "lonely" might catch up with you in such a remote place like delta. - there are factions in delta that would readily "assist" us if something happened for a price. - but this price is still payed in credits.

when you loose friends - not even credits might help you out anymore.

so, please - do NOT throw stones at zoners here in the edgeworlds. - you are the one living in the glasshouse, we are just the ones that are passing by. - the guild has more experience fighting. - but we zoners have more experience ... surviving in the edgeworlds.



if you have internal issues - keep them internal. - do not tell the zoners how to deal with their guests. - we decide based on what benefits us zoners. the nova torpedo you fire at one of our biodomes or stations might rebound so easily and head the other way.

i do hope these words were clear enough - and i am also certain that the choice of words in your letter to those that "may" shelter whoever you consider a villain was just a "mistake". - mistakes happen - and no word may be spoken about such wrongly chosen words anymore.

we all wish to continue as good as we have, don t we?

sincerely, Elizabeth Tate.


postscript:

let me add, when a burning and crippled ship approaches freeport 11 and requests an emergency docking to safe the crew - we will NOT deny docking rights unless the ship was declared hostile by the zoner council - and in that case, we might just be mercyful and finish the ship up quickly. we will not let any crew that has never done harm to die cause someone else asks us to - that would be murder - and "we" at least are no murderers.

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Offline Athenian
09-24-2009, 10:05 PM,
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---Incoming Transmission---
--CommID: George Graves--
-Location: Capetown Station-


Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Signed,

George Graves


-End of Transmission-
--Data Connection Lost--





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