Logical balance

[Jinx]

that won t happen, cause there is no objective jury to discuss who deserves a warship and who does not deserve one.

furthermore - they won t be powerful, cause when you are taken down without having a chance, you care very little if the person who just took you down has a good background or not - what you see is that in that particular situation - he had all the odds on his side, but not due to skill, but due to game mechanics and stats.

when people ask for SRP only - they should always consider that it will be THEM ( too ) who at one time .... may wish to fly such a ship.... write a story, get some inRP going.... and be rejected, while seeing someone else "who doesn t deserve it, REALLY!" gets his approved.

it also too much depends on popularity - and once a person is labelled, - no matter what he does to redeem himself - his chances are a lot smaller to get something positivly special than someone who has reached a level of popularity.

example:

too often have i heard "this person is good, cause he is in a faction that only does good and responsible people - but the other person is a lol-wut, he attacked me in a cruiser" - yet, the one that utters such a comment might not even know the person in the faction that is supposed to be responsible, he just takes up the believe that this is true... while at the same time, believes in the utter irresponsibility of the other person.

or how many ppl who label others as lolwuts really search the forum for their "might be" story, and are objective enough to agree that they did something wrong, too ( maybe like flying up to a cruiser in a fighter, which is flagged as an enemy - or taunting just a little too much etc. )




so, cause people are acting like people, any system that grants ships and equipment based on SRP only is somewhat wrong. - well, unless we turn the warships SRP only - and nerf them even more - that ensures that really only idiots fly them who are masochistic enough to take a 4 hours break every now and then after giving others the luke warm feeling for having shot down something big - which feels like an ancient arcade shooter "end boss".

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Shipdesigns made for DiscoveryGC

[Lance_Uppercut]

Why not "buff" the capital ships and leave it up to the official factions to approve use?

Independent Navy, Order, Outcast, etc. restricted to GB-size without approval.

Cruiser-size and up must go through the respective primary fleet.

I only make the point about "independent" fleets since every single official faction (meaning all those approved on a RP basis and given official status to maintain their RP basis) already have such frameworks.

Try joining Order as a cruiser captain. "Sorry, get in the VHF and wait your turn" doesn't mean you'll never get it -- you just need to prove responsibility BEFORE you buy it.

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::The Pennsylvania Liberation Force

[Lance_Uppercut]

And before you say it'll be too much work for the faction leaders, consider which is worse:

Dealing with dozens of capship requests which can be deferred and handled on your own time or doled out to faction members to help

or

dealing with indie fleets disobeying orders and giving your NPC faction a reputation you've worked hard to avoid (see: LNS, TCG for two)

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::The Pennsylvania Liberation Force

[CzeReptile]

This line made me laugh.

[color=#FF99FF]I fly Fighters most of the time, how about I want a fair and equal chance versus capital ships too?
How about I want a fair and equal chance with say two Fighters versus one heavy Solaris-geared Cruiser just as y'all want a "fair and equal" chance against SNAC-geared Bombers?

It's trash, fair and equal my behind, a Bomber's job's to wreck caps, who ever said you're supposed to even have a fair and equal chance, Fighters don't have it vs. Caps either, nor do Bombers vs. Fighters, etcetera.

Fair and equal here translates into making Caps pwnzor more and harder, and that's all there is to it.

But go on, those threads just keep getting funnier and funnier, all the time.

Riiiight. Want it fair. Make battleship same cost of fighter. Then have your balance. It is great fun to spend months trading just to realize how futile it is in the end.

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