Rheinland lawfuls vs Rheinland unlawfuls #2

[Cond0r]

Actually you are wrong, in multiple lines. First of all, the VF started acting aggressive as soon as one of our guys showed up there with his Smokeone, just to rename the ship to RHA, so he wouldn't have to rep up another ship in 5 minutes time. As soon as this happened, without even asking about anything, the VF say "sorry you can't participate here, shoo".

Secondly, 2 of the RHA did switch to the other side, and I have told you this multiple times, but you have missed it from all the bickering you have produced.

Thirdly, I have also said, multiple times, that only those RHA that are needed will participate, at that time it was the number 3-4. But again, you have also missed that part. Also, it wasn't just one sentence, you have acted rude and abrasive to certain RHA that were there the entire time. You weren't addressing anyone specific? You were addressing both specific persons, and the RHA.

Alas, if you want me to stop quoting what you said with quotation marks, I can easily just post the entire log of your bickering, which I am reading right now, but that wont serve you well, will it?

Also, since your prejudice towards players that are better at pvp than you stop you from working together, with your actual allies, then like I said, you can have these events without the "whores". Well in conclusion, have fun being killed by VF....I mean RM at your future events.

Now I believe I have said all I wanted. Better leave before you decide you don't like people who type too much either.

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[Zig]

And I've seen you're no longer one.

:rolleyes:
@Korny: REVEEEENGE!

Oh, I don't know, I think the ol' Mini Razor's still got a bit of kick to it.

Is that a yes, then?:D

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Luls:

Role-play is not the be all and end all.

[Enojado]

:D

Maybe.

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[Sturmwind]

Now. I have no idea what exactly happened since I was trying to pull the RM together. Only joined the VF as the RHA decided not to come, still don't really have a clean picture on why exactly they made a decision like that.

What I detected was not really the issue of numbers, more like the issue of wording. I'm confident an apology and...

B: That unmatched numbers should be avoided by registering before the event (mandatory).

... that would settle it.

I believe taking the next week off would be in order, if there is a demand I'll put something up for the week afterwards. Not really worth arguing about this scenario imo. I hate how all larger-scale events go down because of small issues and sudden emotions, try to consider the long run guys. I believe we can all benefit from this event line continuing.

[Grail]

I missed the event because of RL issues.

How did it went and who won ?

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LWB The Unioners Cryer~

[Vrabcek]

Yes smokey, i am in all wrong and you are the in everything right

Is that you wanted to see? Are you happy now? Does it make you feel you like hero?

I hope it did, becouse you are such an awesome guy and im just a stupid prick who doesnt know anything

Im sorry for being such an a**hole and you such a God.

The only thing i ever wanted in making such events was to get the activity of the AGS and VF and you are the one who screwed it all.

Does it makes you happy? Becouse we are happy that the volksfront has 6-7 people and the AGS 3-4.

Yay, good job.

I dont want to blame it on you but with your attitude the Volksfront with be disolved if you just say one more word and i suggest that the AGS will do the same., becouse there is no need for any of the other 3 rheinland unlawful factions except the hessians.

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[Blodo]

I'm not sure how starved for action RM are these days, but here's an idea: maybe make this into two separate events so that both the inactive factions and the active ones get their share of the action, and people won't step on each others heels in the process?

Assuming it would be 2 events in one week (for uber Rheinland activity and attracting many players), one could be RHA vs RM large scale battle.

Other one could be AGS/VF vs RFP so that these factions can make an appearance. On the other one members from RM/RHA would only be invited if the other side needed a few replacements (so like yesterday in case of RFP having a turn out of 0).

If it was organised like this then I am sure you wouldn't have one side calling the other "whores" and the other calling the one "inconsiderate" and ragequitting or whatever it was. Because lets face it, if you try to pile in inactive factions with active ones into an event, the active ones will drown out the inactive ones no matter what you do. Liberty vs Rheinland event being any indication, where XA appears in numbers of max 2 because everyone else simply prefers an LN char.

[Korny]

I'm not sure how starved for action RM are these days, but here's an idea: maybe make this into two separate events so that both the inactive factions and the active ones get their share of the action, and people won't step on each others heels in the process?

Assuming it would be 2 events in one week (for uber Rheinland activity and attracting many players), one could be RHA vs RM large scale battle.

Other one could be AGS/VF vs RFP so that these factions can make an appearance. On the other one members from RM/RHA would only be invited if the other side needed a few replacements (so like yesterday in case of RFP having a turn out of 0).

If it was organised like this then I am sure you wouldn't have one side calling the other "whores" and the other calling the one "inconsiderate" and ragequitting or whatever it was. Because lets face it, if you try to pile in inactive factions with active ones into an event, the active ones will drown out the inactive ones no matter what you do. Liberty vs Rheinland event being any indication, where XA appears in numbers of max 2 because everyone else simply prefers an LN char.

That. Completely agree with that in any point.

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[Cond0r]

I dont want to blame it on you but with your attitude the Volksfront with be disolved if you just say one more word and i suggest that the AGS will do the same., becouse there is no need for any of the other 3 rheinland unlawful factions except the hessians.

With your attitude I don't know how it managed to survive this long.

Im sorry for being such an a**hole and you such a God.

Apology not accepted.

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[KennyHawk]

Ok, I'm all for cooperation - if it is played on honest terms.

But I'm not stupid, this whole collective opinion that the RHA are PvP-whores is not something that is exactly new.
I have heard it before, in another very important Faction chat (that I was previously in) and one that is much connected to these events. I also know from experience that this simply is not the first time we have to hear this. I'm also very aware of the highly exchanged membership between the VF and the RM. This is not something that is disallowed, quite the opposite, it produces members with multiple perspectives. This is always a good thing. But it can also cause a lot of problems when one Faction retains a certain opinion, it is automatically spread to two Factions due to the exchanged membership mechanism. A natural consequence.

Now without trying to point fingers at anyone yet attempting to highlight the issue here, being the attitude we receive is simply one we can't accept as players. Not only was this event we experienced yesterday a testament of that, but the whole issue with the Smokeone player joining and that fast-comment about "RHA whores ruining the event", it's not something you forget in a single day. Because I don't know how you people operate here, but for me, I don't like being treated as some kind of property which you can utilize at your discretion. Meaning, that when combat is key and victory is a necessity, all of a sudden the members of the RHA are being asked to help... yes... then we are all "friends" you know. But the minute that service is not required, the trash-talking returns to its standard levels, either this occurs solely on isolated Skype chats or the medium is enlarged to in-game comments and subtle remarks on the forums. We are not exactly blind, or at least, I'm not. I find this behaviour despicable to say the least but one I can accept given the nature of the people I'm speaking about.

However! If our Faction Leader would like to see continued cooperation, I'm willing to respect the wishes of my Faction Leader above my personal opinion and do my best to maintain whatever relationship he expects out of us. Simply, because I hold great respect for my faction. But know this, many players do not simply forget these kinds of comments, and that is not to say that we are over-sensitive. Which clearly can't be the case now that I have already pointed out that I'm willing for the interest of the RHA faction, maintain good relationships. Something I also expect out of other RHA members, who know their loyalty well as both members and rational players.

But do know that we remember things told to us and they are not easily forgettable.

This is highly, on a player-basis.

Also Vrabcek what you are saying is not an apology, what you are saying is that you will apologize if it means Igor will remain quiet. In other words you are not even trying to acknowledge the issue we have raised here and/or simply don't accept/care about it, you want to instead "get on with it". Not to mention the fact that you are also attempting to place Igor as a scapegoat, or even the RHA as a whole for the potential destruction of your Faction and/or your ally's faction is an increadiably disgraceful act. One I can't even understand the logic behind stating such things.

What you have done here is given us another reason to question whether or not we should in all honesty even consider helping you out. As players. Not as members of an alliance. Since this whole thing, is strictly personal.

This is my final piece on this matter.

Lieutenant Yanovski out.