Well the legend of Dracula (the first vampire) originates from my country.But digging more to to this hitorical problem it seems that Vlad Tepes( the man asociated with Dracula) wasnt a bloodcuker affterall (tho he kill some dosen of people that was against him and that was for a good reason...he killed them...probably 40 of them by driving them trough a woddean pole...the entry point was the anus...sorry for the term) And the legend appeard after he passed out...but the first time the name Dracula was mentioned was in 1898 in an english book or manuscript (really dont remember) and Tepes died somewhere 1400. And his nickname was Drăculea Ţepeş (Ţepeş come from the fact that a woden pole is name teapa) and the name Drăculea really comes from his father that was nicknamed Dracul ( Devil ) because the mark of his order was a Dragon (same translation to my (languadge) so you see here that the english people started the dracula legend and Dracula is just an Dracul with an a at the end and simply dosent relate to vampires witch are a bad farytale.
Sajjukar, I sympathize with your endevour, but there is no way you are going to convince Marburg you actually know more than him unless you watched all the movies he watched, listened to all the cool music he listened to, can talk the cool way he talks like, and say exactly the things that someone put in wikipeda or some other place in the internet so Marburg could look it up, and speak Marburg's native and only language better than Marburg does.
If you don't talk like the people with alleged medical background that Marburg has seen on tv or the internet (95% of which were actors with no medical background speaking lines written by people with no medical or scientific background), you're not someone with a medical background.
These are the ways of the internet communities. If Marburg's, or any of the other alpha males here, ego and community standing doesnt allow that someone who he decided is his inferior (which is mostly people who dont speak his language as well as him and dont watch the same movies) knows more about something, then he doesnt.
' Wrote:Well the legend of Dracula (the first vampire) originates from my country.
I wont get into a medical or pop-cultural discussion, but I beg to differ at this point. Undead consuming the blood or flesh of living beings have been found in nearly every culture around the world for many centuries. Ghouls in Arabia, Sekhmet in Egypt, Lillith in Hebrew folklore comes to mind. Though I admit, the term 'vampire' originates from the age of Dracula, probably even from his legend - but it's hard to track the word's first appearance.
Seems nothing new here with the zombies. Just another name for a similar destructive/consuming phenomena in a global~ish culture.
Evan_ Wrote:I wont get into a medical or pop-cultural discussion, but I beg to differ at this point. Undead consuming the blood or flesh of living beings have been found in nearly every culture around the world for many centuries. Ghouls in Arabia, Sekhmet in Egypt, Lillith in Hebrew folklore comes to mind. Though I admit, the term 'vampire' originates from the age of Dracula, probably even from his legend - but it's hard to track the word's first appearance.
He said vampire, not undead blood suckers in general. So what are you differing with?
Evan the vampire culture dates back to the last years of 1800 and was based on some novel (searched for it jsut a moment ago) writen by Bram Stoker and is he inspierd by some events that taken place in 1400 and he invented the vampires and Dracula is the english therm for Dracul (Dracula sounds more appealing in english) witch i must restate that means Devil (please try to speack outloud the word Dracul and tell me if it sounds appealing in english) and that undead consuming corpses are nothing more than holywood sience fiction make to draw more viewers and that brings fear to people minds
Edit: And i dont have anithing with Marburg... love contructive people witch can point out theyr point of view and dont follow others like sheep
<strike>The author of Dracula was Bram Stoker</strike> ::ninja'd:: & yes, the pop vampire myth is an Irish creation that borrowed various ancient vamp myths and put 'em into a single character. The reason it originally became so popular is because during the extreme sexual repression of the Victorian era, it was a pretty hot read for the times, as it was really all about love & sex under the guise of drinking blood.
My question however was, given the fact that there are a number of medical conditions that mimic aspects of vampirisim, like Porphyria & Renfields, would you say that vampires are real? Honestly, I would think not as that would be nuts. but I had to ask, not to tease...if anything, (and despite hierophant's little jabs at me) just to keep the thread going cause threads that truly interest & entertain me are really rare.
& hiero: it's obvious you love me. it's ok though. You don't need sarcasm to mask the shame of how you really feel. I accept you for who you are darlin' ;)
...eww. I just kinda grossed myself out a little.:mellow:
No they are not real...Drinking blood is an obsession but it has its drawbacks...we know that blood is made from red globuly(the actual blood) white globuly(part of the limfatic system) and more components...when you drink blod it coagulates and the acid in you stomach digets it thus releasing high ammount of iron witch the human body cannot wistand and thus you will automaticly and withought any restrain...throw up.Blood dosent contain much nutriments and you can only drink 100 ml of it before you get sick.And if you somehow drink it and the white cells somehow survive all that acid..they will start terminating your intestinal flora witch will cause an acute diarrea
Edit:I am just a self obssed paranoid agrgresive human beeing that like to terrorize the others just to feal theyr pain witch brings me happines and joy but now you cought my good side
Actually, my bad...I tend to wander off from the computer alot as I type my posts in wordpad. I forgot that you already answered my vamp question in your last line about 6 posts ago before I even asked it a few posts later:$
I think that's worthy of a self-inflicted facepalm:yes:
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