KTA - discussion (to be moved?)

[FynnMcScrap]

Im reacting ooC to following Thread :
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=120762
(Kyushu Tomioka Alliance - Official Information Brochure)

Kyushu-Tomioka Alliance Law Code
1. KTA is a lawful faction that obeys Kusari Law Codex.
2. KTA is part of Samura Heavy Industries, who is patron to the first.
2.1. KTA vessels are not to assault on Kishiro, GMG and Synth Foods' vessels.
2.2. The upper rule is valid in both House and non-House space.
3. The company will participate in joint operations between KTA, Samura and Hogosha entities.
3.1. KTA is allowed to open fire at every Junker vessel in Kusari space.
3.2. The joint operations are limited to trade and supply duties only.
3.3. KTA members are not advised to act against Junkers, unless in self-defence.
4. KTA is bound by Kusari-Bretonia Trade Agreement.
4.1. KTA vessels are to obey Bretonia Law Codex.
4.2. KTA vessels may moor or land in Cortez Protectorate.
4.3. Gateway Shipping is a foreign business partner to KTA.
5. KTA vessels are not allowed to ship Artifacts and warfare-oriented shipment.
5.1 The upper rule is omnitted, if shipment is requested by Hogosha Affiliation, Samura Industries or Yashida Holding.
6. All KTA vessels are not allowed to sell and buy goods in Liberty space.
6.1. The reason of this rule is a embargo on all trade, products and Liberty corporations in Republic of Liberty.
6.2. The excluded bases are Atka Research Station (Cryer) and Trenton Outpost (Universal).
6.3. The excluded planet from this rule is California Minor (Planetform Inc.).
6.4. Liberty Space is considered as a no-land and no-fly zone for all KTA vessels.
7. All other law directives can be found in Kusari Law Codex.

Er... I am a little confused now.
What exactly do the marked points mean ?

Also :
Even though we do not belong to the great official factions, we are a libertonian base of operations at T&T.
We still fly Freelance ID, and if T&T/ manages to get official we will try and be added to *sirius-wide* factions. .So you are free use us to trader in Liberty.
But still: do you evade your won Liberty embargo through us or not ?
Well, fine with us . But do write us down as contact then. Makes things easier.
After all we do have a trade and support deal between KTA and T&T currently...
or don´t we ?
Problem is : you fly in and through Liberty... even to reach Bretonia.
You should clean up rep and diplomacy here, regarding us and regarding Liberty.

After all : I do a lot off inofficial and official paperwork regarding your group, and T&T is not even mentioned ? Hrmpf.


Second point :
Is this Privateer group part of your RP ?
Jes or no ?
If yes : write it in your info ( marked as secret, marked as sepperate... as what you want )
If no : the do NOT connect both. That´s Power - & Metagaming, and not well recieved in Forum and community.
It makes it more difficult to react to stuff with other characters.

Point is : Don´t HIDE information, except in RP .
OOC, the information has to be available for other players, so that everybody knows what he might - and what he will NOT - know.
We do not know what you think, or dream of...
only what you write ;-)

Till then : ceep it up !
I like to see more interaction in the Colorado <> Shikoku corridor, and in Kusari generally.
After all : my best customers and worst enemies live there .

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FynnMcScrap, Foreman of Tinkers Haven

[Fluffyball]

Marked points are either to be left or to be removed in the future.

As for Liberty, situation is just temporal there. As I said, embargo is just for a period of time. However, we in fact cannot fly though Liberty to Bretonia because of using Rheinland stuff (until KTA gets reply from Liberty's head). So, we can say that KTA is as unwanted in Liberty as Junkers are unwanted in Kusari.

Oh and most of routes we are making now are filght through... Rheinland. Yeah, I couldn't believe myself that getting to Bretonia would be as fast (is not faster) as going through Liberty. But for now, we rather enforce Rheinland-Kusari trade with no trade within Liberty Space. Getting Tea from Cortez is pain, however.

As for T&T, officially we are not in Liberty space... this wouldn't stop us from visiting Tinkers Haven from Galileo/Hudson side.

Privateers were supposed to be volountaury so-called "defenders" of KTA against rather unfriendly Liberty, but I think I will have this idea scrapped.

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[Lythrilux]

Personally, I'm a little confused with the relations between TT and KTA.
If you two want to develop those relations to become good friends, I'd suggest either KTA switching to a Kishiro ID or TT swapping to a DSE ID (it can scrap mine).

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[Fluffyball]

It is more about being neutral-to-friendly rather than being allies. Kishiro ID cannot be used, because it would restrain (in lore) access to both Kyushu and Tomioka.

And it would bring the reversed problem as well with Takarabune, that is Hogosha ID-ded faction. Same with Yashida, because they are Samura ID-ded.

Also: fixed the Code thing.

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[Lythrilux]

I'd suggest swapping to an FL ID then, if you wish to keep your relations whilst keeping inline with Samura lore.

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[Fluffyball]

I'd suggest swapping to an FL ID then, if you wish to keep your relations whilst keeping inline with Samura lore.

It was mentioned before that, in lore, FA and Hogosha would have the full right to hunt us down being unaffiliated, selling the goods they would claim to be theirs or belong to Samura. Also... there are no pretty ships within KuCiv and Civ lines. I mean, okay, we would fly something smaller, provided it is not ugly. Serenity is the exception, but... Well, it does not fits that Kusari vibe.

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[FynnMcScrap]

Personally, I'm a little confused with the relations between TT and KTA.
If you two want to develop those relations to become good friends, I'd suggest either KTA switching to a Kishiro ID or TT swapping to a DSE ID (it can scrap mine).

As player I can understand that point of view ;-)
But there will definitively be no changing T&T ID other than trying to get official and build a different Freelance based ID with seperate rep sheet.
No change to DSE, would go contra to 90% of our RP.

Im eager to learn how this relationship is going to evolve myself.
No idea currently.
I only know what Fynn and the rest of the T&T/ Leadership ( ok - me, aka: Rob ) thinks about it, and I´m reacting to it accordingly.

No complaints to KTA OR JM so far, ceep it up.
Im enjoying the game ;-)

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FynnMcScrap, Foreman of Tinkers Haven

[Fluffyball]

The chain has been broken.
The gauntlet has been thrown down.
Let the drama diplomacy begin!

Show must go on, after all.

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