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Good Trade Route from Rheinland to Bretonnia?
Offline Jan_Mattys
04-20-2016, 11:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-20-2016, 11:24 AM by Jan_Mattys.)
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Hello everybody, Jan Mattys speaking here.

I run a small but quite profitable quasi-legal business between Dublin and New Berlin, mining asteroids and bringing the extracted gold to Rheinland where they pay good cash for it. I fly under Freelancer allegiance with a *cough* legal * cough* independent Miner ID for the time being, but I am thinking about going corporate sooner or later, and sell my soul to the BMM.

In order not to waste time, I wonder if anyone can suggest me a profitable trade for the way back from New Berlin to Bretonnia space. My Hegemon cries every time it takes off with an empty cargo. Remember that, for now, I am not well received at Corporate Docking bays

Thanks in advance,
Jan
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Offline sasapinjic
04-20-2016, 11:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-20-2016, 12:08 PM by sasapinjic.)
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Uncut Diamonds , Mine or buy from Omega 11/9 ( not really sure , since never mined there ) to London for around 8500 ,
Aluminum ore ( if you can mine or find it , try POB in Berlin Orbit ) - sell 11300 in London,
Aluminum , buy Munich 178 , Berlin 700 - sell London 3000 , Leeds 3500 , Newcastle 3000,
Blue jilies , buy Stuttgart 159 - sell Leeds 2600 , New castle 2250,
Hazmat Canisters , buy New Berlin 399 - sell London 2400 , New Castle 3000 , Leeds 3500 .
Note :
Need Neutral Rep With Galic for Leeds sale .
Alternatively , buy Rheinland Beer to New York ( 200-2000 ) then Bring Liberty Ale ( 200-2000 ) Neon ( 178-2100 ) or Helium ( mine or 1000 in POB in Pennsylvania - 3050 ) to London .

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Offline Karst
04-20-2016, 12:00 PM,
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As a miner, you have a few options. Silver Ore from Omega-7 is bought by Canterbury Station in New London, Copper Ore also from Omega-7 is bought by Scarborough Station, Newcastle, and Uncut Diamonds from Omega-11 are bought by Waterloo Station, New London.
Aluminum Ore from Munich is bought by Southampton Shipyard, but as an independent miner BMM won't let you dock there.

Don't expect the local mining corporations to be happy about you stealing their ore, though.

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Offline Jan_Mattys
04-20-2016, 04:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-20-2016, 04:05 PM by Jan_Mattys.)
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(04-20-2016, 12:00 PM)Karst Wrote: Don't expect the local mining corporations to be happy about you stealing their ore, though.

What do you mean "their ore"? The last time I checked, I didn't see any corporate logo on those asteroids.

The way I see it, if it's in my cargo, it's mine. If it's going to be in my cargo bay soon, it's mine as well. It just doesn't know it yet.
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Offline Laura C.
04-20-2016, 04:24 PM,
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(04-20-2016, 04:04 PM)Jan_Mattys Wrote:
(04-20-2016, 12:00 PM)Karst Wrote: Don't expect the local mining corporations to be happy about you stealing their ore, though.

What do you mean "their ore"? The last time I checked, I didn't see any corporate logo on those asteroids.

The way I see it, if it's in my cargo, it's mine. If it's going to be in my cargo bay soon, it's mine as well. It just doesn't know it yet.

Rheinland laws would disagree with you...
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(12-12-2009, 06:49 PM)Bundeskabinett Sekretariat Wrote: >>Article Three: Trade regulations

§2. Supremacy of Rheinland corporations in Rheinland space and measures to maintain it:

§2.1. Ownership of mining fields: Rheinland corporations maintain the right to modify, trade, lend, gift, and sell the rights to their respective mining fields to any party.

§2.1.1. Dresden system:

§2.1.1.1. Sectors F-G 3,4,5 belong to Kruger Minerals.

§2.1.2. Koeln system:

§2.1.2.1. Sectors F-G 4,5 as well as D-F 7,8 belong to Kruger Minerals.

§2.1.3. Munich system:

§2.1.3.1. All mining fields within Munich system are the property of Daumann Heavy Construction.

§2.1.4. Omega-7 system:

§2.1.4.1. Sectors A-H 5,6,7,8 belong to Daumann Heavy Construction.

§2.1.4.2. Sectors E-H 1,2,3,4 belong to Kruger Minerals.

§2.1.5. Omega-11 system:

§2.1.5.1. Omega-11 system as whole is the property of Daumann Heavy Construction. Official Daumann representatives (marked with tag DHC-) are allowed to declare traffic regulations, fees, local laws and enforce them. Federal law-enforcement authorities may assist.

§2.1.6. Only vessels belonging to the company that owns the area, in addition to Rheinland law enforcement vessels, can patrol and/or mine in said areas. This holds true unless an agreement has been reached between the visiting vessel and the area’s owner.

§2.1.7. Area owner has the right to forbid entrance completely to the said zones to any non-Rheinland entity, group, company or corporation. This must to be announced in Rheinland Government Channel and also announced in Neural Net Communication Channel properly.

§2.1.8. In case of violation by ship which is not allowed to enter the area, violator will be ordered to leave the area once, then reasonable force may be used. Repetitive violators may be also fined up to 5.000.000 SC fine. Party which is enforcing the entrance restriction is responsible for keeping enough evidence about incidents for any possible litigation.

§2.1.9. In case ore theft is revealed, stealing party is obligated to pay equal to stolen ore’s worth compensation to the field owner’s. Exact worth is to be calculated by law enforcement forces.

On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.
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Offline Jan_Mattys
04-20-2016, 05:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-20-2016, 05:11 PM by Jan_Mattys.)
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(04-20-2016, 04:24 PM)Laura C. Wrote:
(04-20-2016, 04:04 PM)Jan_Mattys Wrote:
(04-20-2016, 12:00 PM)Karst Wrote: Don't expect the local mining corporations to be happy about you stealing their ore, though.

What do you mean "their ore"? The last time I checked, I didn't see any corporate logo on those asteroids.

The way I see it, if it's in my cargo, it's mine. If it's going to be in my cargo bay soon, it's mine as well. It just doesn't know it yet.

Rheinland laws would disagree with you...
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(12-12-2009, 06:49 PM)Bundeskabinett Sekretariat Wrote: >>Article Three: Trade regulations

§2. Supremacy of Rheinland corporations in Rheinland space and measures to maintain it:

§2.1. Ownership of mining fields: Rheinland corporations maintain the right to modify, trade, lend, gift, and sell the rights to their respective mining fields to any party.

§2.1.1. Dresden system:

§2.1.1.1. Sectors F-G 3,4,5 belong to Kruger Minerals.

§2.1.2. Koeln system:

§2.1.2.1. Sectors F-G 4,5 as well as D-F 7,8 belong to Kruger Minerals.

§2.1.3. Munich system:

§2.1.3.1. All mining fields within Munich system are the property of Daumann Heavy Construction.

§2.1.4. Omega-7 system:

§2.1.4.1. Sectors A-H 5,6,7,8 belong to Daumann Heavy Construction.

§2.1.4.2. Sectors E-H 1,2,3,4 belong to Kruger Minerals.

§2.1.5. Omega-11 system:

§2.1.5.1. Omega-11 system as whole is the property of Daumann Heavy Construction. Official Daumann representatives (marked with tag DHC-) are allowed to declare traffic regulations, fees, local laws and enforce them. Federal law-enforcement authorities may assist.

§2.1.6. Only vessels belonging to the company that owns the area, in addition to Rheinland law enforcement vessels, can patrol and/or mine in said areas. This holds true unless an agreement has been reached between the visiting vessel and the area’s owner.

§2.1.7. Area owner has the right to forbid entrance completely to the said zones to any non-Rheinland entity, group, company or corporation. This must to be announced in Rheinland Government Channel and also announced in Neural Net Communication Channel properly.

§2.1.8. In case of violation by ship which is not allowed to enter the area, violator will be ordered to leave the area once, then reasonable force may be used. Repetitive violators may be also fined up to 5.000.000 SC fine. Party which is enforcing the entrance restriction is responsible for keeping enough evidence about incidents for any possible litigation.

§2.1.9. In case ore theft is revealed, stealing party is obligated to pay equal to stolen ore’s worth compensation to the field owner’s. Exact worth is to be calculated by law enforcement forces.

Sir, I really hope you understand that those comments were meant in a non-serious way.

I have the utmost respect for Rheinland regulations; as a side note, I want to point out that there's nothing about me in Rheinland criminal records, and that any rumor of illegal activity associated with my name is likely due to my competitors trying to make me look bad.

I am just an entrepreneur who happens to visit your beautiful capital from time to time and who happens to travel through your borders. Never had any trouble with any Police force in any quadrant, and I don't plan this to change in the future.

And besides, I am sure you awesome guys have bigger fish to fry than a poor little nothing like me. Keep up the good work!
And get off my tail.
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Offline Gunbladelad
04-25-2016, 09:57 PM,
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While not a mining run, I've been taking Liberty Ale from Manhattan to Planet New London and picking up Gin to sell on Planet New Berlin. From there it's Rheinbier back to Manhattan.

I find it a profitable enough circuit that goes through a good chunk of Sirius that allows for RP at some point in each lap. Just remember not to drink & fly - those'll be your profits...
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Offline Jazzi
04-25-2016, 10:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2016, 10:19 PM by Jazzi.)
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Jan Mattys, I like your style! On a constructive note, Karst hit the nail on the head.
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