' Wrote:And yes, Kusari is different from all the other houses, so it merits different RP. That isn't to say that all the other houses need to RP the same, it's just that Kusari is *more* different from the other houses than the other houses are different from each other. In Kusari, there is a different cultural base, and much more complicated faction relations than other houses. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Everybody talks about how Kusari has so much more complicated relations and RP than everybody else. How so? Yes you have a lot of backstory but none of that is ever brought up or implemented in gameplay. All I ever hear when I fly through Kusari (which is often) is, "halt, gaijin" or "konnichiwa, so-and-so". So it irks me when people say that Kusari is so different from the other houses. Maybe you guys do a lot of RP in group chat, I don't know. But to paraphrase Cuba Gooding Jr. (I know and I'm sorry), you gotta "show me the [roleplay]".
PS: If Kusari police did more of this, my soul would be content forever.
Got to admit I'd like to know how it's more complicated than any else in the FL universe. If you wanted to you could make any other faction relationship complicated, it just the people don't seem to want to.
imganie something deep and life changing put here.....
and then forget it
Name another place in space that has backdoor deals with its pirates. That is how it is more complicated. The Kusari factions have to juggle their apparent goals with keeping a straight face. THAT is how it's so much different.
In any other one house, a basic character has black and white relations with everyone else in that house. It can be developed more, to the point where a character has some sympathies towards certain groups due to their backstory and all that, but, in Kusari, things aren't black and white for a basic character. The FA and Hogosha make trouble for the Kusari government, and they have to keep a face of being lawful while still fulfilling their purpose. The same goes for the KNF. They have to keep a face of cracking down on pirating while staying somewhat friendly (Or unfriendly, depending on the character) towards the conservative quasi-lawful groups. That is also only the basics of the relationships. With any one interpretation, that could change drastically.
Name any other house like that. Unless we count the Junkers as somewhat friendly to the institutions in place (Which isn't possible, I don't think), you can't, at all. That is how Kusari is different.
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
' Wrote:Name another place in space that has backdoor deals with its pirates. That is how it is more complicated. The Kusari factions have to juggle their apparent goals with keeping a straight face. THAT is how it's so much different.
In any other one house, a basic character has black and white relations with everyone else in that house. It can be developed more, to the point where a character has some sympathies towards certain groups due to their backstory and all that, but, in Kusari, things aren't black and white for a basic character. The FA and Hogosha make trouble for the Kusari government, and they have to keep a face of being lawful while still fulfilling their purpose. The same goes for the KNF. They have to keep a face of cracking down on pirating while staying somewhat friendly (Or unfriendly, depending on the character) towards the conservative quasi-lawful groups. That is also only the basics of the relationships. With any one interpretation, that could change drastically.
Name any other house like that. Unless we count the Junkers as somewhat friendly to the institutions in place (Which isn't possible, I don't think), you can't, at all. That is how Kusari is different.
Rheinland? Come on, we're fighting the same enemy here...
Bretonia...the Mollys want Kusari and the Corsairs out as much as the BAF does
Liberty. Xenos are gonna assist the Navy and Police in removing Outcasts, 'Sairs, etc.
Kusari RP is different to the remainder of the houses, because Bretonia, Liberty and Rheinland are based on western culture. Much the same way as OC/Sair RP is different because they are based on Hispanic culture. To say that Kusari RP is "more complex" is to completely overlook the potential present in the rest of Sirius...
Derkylos, that is only in extreme(esque) circumstances. I am talking about the most basic of terms of a character. In the case of an invasion, Kusari does the same thing, aside from the GC. On an everyday basis, there is no other place that has such complex relationships.
On any normal day, the RM NPCs are hostile to LWB, Bundschuh, Hessian, and Unioner NPCs. On any normal day, BPA NPCs are hostile to Corsair, Molly, and Gaian NPCs. On any normal day, the LN NPCs are hostile to Outcast, Xeno, Hacker, and Rogue NPCs. On any normal day, Corsair NPCs are hostile to Hessian, Outcast, and Molly NPCs.
On any normal day, KSP NPCs are not hostile to FA or Hogosha NPCs until they catch them pirating. That is the difference. The face has to be kept by the players as to not constitute an arrest, and a semblance of friendliness has to be kept by the lawfuls as to not antagonize their backdoor allies.
In Kusari, it's a different atmosphere. It's corrupt, and openly so. No other place in Sirius is like that.
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
' Wrote:Name another place in space that has backdoor deals with its pirates. That is how it is more complicated. The Kusari factions have to juggle their apparent goals with keeping a straight face. THAT is how it's so much different.
In any other one house, a basic character has black and white relations with everyone else in that house. It can be developed more, to the point where a character has some sympathies towards certain groups due to their backstory and all that, but, in Kusari, things aren't black and white for a basic character. The FA and Hogosha make trouble for the Kusari government, and they have to keep a face of being lawful while still fulfilling their purpose. The same goes for the KNF. They have to keep a face of cracking down on pirating while staying somewhat friendly (Or unfriendly, depending on the character) towards the conservative quasi-lawful groups. That is also only the basics of the relationships. With any one interpretation, that could change drastically.
Name any other house like that. Unless we count the Junkers as somewhat friendly to the institutions in place (Which isn't possible, I don't think), you can't, at all. That is how Kusari is different.
Baconsoda,
You can write it, but it doesn't mean any of it has any bearing on gameplay. So you have the Hogosha and AFA, which are friendly with the police. But in-game, I might as well be talking to the police or the KNF because you all sound exactly the same. Gaijin this, gaijin that.
Meanwhile, the same can be said for many other faction relations. As a member of the LWB I'm sure you're aware of the complexity of Rheinland factions, with political motives being the driving force of most Rheinland pirate groups. In Bretonia, I can tell you as a Molly that every time a Kusari jumps into Leeds, there's 3 hostile forces at play - Kusari, Bretonian lawfuls, and Mollys. It always lends itself to interesting situations.
I'm not saying Kusari relationships aren't complex; it's just that the way they are played out is bland. In fact, I would say that the Kusari factions are almost homogeneous in their behavior. Whereas in the other houses the lawfuls and unlawfuls have their own "flavor," in Kusari everybody sounds and acts the same. Please let me know if I am completely wrong and direct me to the nearest evidence, but I really don't see any variety there . So now finally returning to the topic of this thread, I don't see why there shouldn't be some humor sprinkled into the KSP, which is why I like this idea.
Edit: Wow looking back on my post I sound way more pissed off than I really am. Flying as a Kusarian is a challenge for most, because I would surmise most people on here aren't Japanese (myself included). Kudos to everybody who tries to make it work. Hell, after all I said I think I'm gonna make a Kusari character myself and see if I have to eat my own words :nyam:
' Wrote:Hell, after all I said I think I'm gonna make a Kusari character myself and see if I have to eat my own words :nyam:
It can be fun sometimes, but the stick-in-ass bit that you mentioned is part of why I almost never play up there. Honestly, I have more fun writing for my Hogosha characters on the forums than I do playing them in-game.
Things can be complex without everyone being stiffer than a steel beam.
But when I'm in Kusari, even when people are around... they're quiet. Or, as Cossack observed, they're all acting like an army of clones.
(and we all know that Rheinland is the Empire, not Kusari)
In case anyone wonders what Thexare was talking about, I did write that Kusarians have a stick up their collective bums but retracted the statement to avoid any bodily harm that might come to me as a result. :unsure:
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