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[Commodity] Azurite Gas seems to mine VERY slow

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[Commodity] Azurite Gas seems to mine VERY slow
Offline ViciousJeff
12-02-2023, 01:49 AM,
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Type:Commodity
Bug: Azurite Gas mining seems very slow on Zoner ID

Reproduction Steps:
  • Restart ZonerBW ID
  • Buy a Rhino in Omicron Mu
  • Start filling up a 5k or deployable container

Additional Information:
[02.12.2023 00:14:58] Welcome to the Discovery Freelancer 24/7 RP server! (head out to mining area to meet freighter, already mining 400 units)
[02.12.2023 00:34:54] Your cargo is now full. (5000 units)

I've also tried self mining in just a Dunlin and it is not at all feasible - even for lower amounts.

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Offline SwiftWing
12-02-2023, 04:34 AM,
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I was the Miner, I could have filled a Barge normally in this amount of time. hope something can be done with this.
Online Kauket
12-02-2023, 07:29 AM,
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All mining was made slower but does larger drops. It was done to help performance. And it apparently rounds out to the same average of loot?


But the rng of it dropping is so low that it's honestly atrocious, I agree. I noticed that gas in particular was much slower too. Probably design oversight.

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Offline StellarViss
12-02-2023, 09:35 AM,
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I have mined silver and helped a friend with mining iridium but it was on official ids with large bonuses to mining making it bearable and similarly efficient to mine as it was pre-change


For independents there mining is too dependent on rng.
Offline Steven.Hiller
12-02-2023, 03:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-02-2023, 03:15 PM by Steven.Hiller.)
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I also noticed something in Leeds with Toxic waste mining on ALG RAGNAR you would shoot and shoot and shoot and nothing fills the cargo hold then suddenly 1 rock you hit fill the 850 cargo space in 1 shot then you sit for minutes again before you get the cargo storage full message only happens when you mine more then you can carry.

So Logic says there is many shootable rocks (targets) but one in the million floating there has all the ore in it or am i wrong ?
So you physically have to sit there mining with the F7 screen open to see when you hit that 1 850 target and not sit there for another 5 minutes hitting empty targets.

Although on uranium it appears to work well and decent and i found water and scrap metal in other systems to mine very fast on Junker id and ship iridium appeared same rates as before on zoner id silver and kruger are still tight bmm and gold suck have not gotten to the other yet oh yes and freelancer and Helium still pretty decent

Tnx and Kind Regards

P.S. - Before the Disco 5 i mined lot of Azz Gaz on order id and that mined pretty damn fast have not come around to test it again after the 5 change over.

DiD YoU CoMe To B@rg@iN
Offline Lusitano
12-02-2023, 05:07 PM,
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there was a time, in the old omega 49, there was a huge pieces of water, it needed more shots to break it but it gave more water ... just a tought. fewer floating pieces, but bigger that could give the same than before!
Offline SwiftWing
12-09-2023, 02:58 PM,
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I used to be the Official Miner for the ADMIN back on our old Server. and I can tell you that they can make each rock drop a little, it is not hard, the problem with that is the mining rate can exceed desired results if each rock drops to much. So you have to calculate the amount each rock drop's to get your drop rate where you want it for a given amount of drops. there is also a varable amount, so each rock doesn't always drop the same rate as well.

So I sure hope they look into this One rock had all the ore thing. I think what is going on is most likely they have 2 mining areas one over the other, both with the same types of rocks in the mining area, First mining area the default one is not dropping anything, then the 2nd Mining area inside that one, with Very few rocks, but with a High Yield. it is pretty simple to figure out and fix, Remove the 2nd Mining area and reset the 1st Mining area to a Standard drop rate. but no matter the configuration it should not take 20 Minutes to fill one little 5k.

Again I sure hope some one looks into this. I could pretty much fill a barge in that time on most any Mining areas
Offline Haste
12-09-2023, 03:00 PM,
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It's just a high mining difficulty (low drop chance) and high average dropped amount. That is all. It's not overlapping fields or anything exciting.

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Offline Chenzo-
12-09-2023, 06:58 PM,
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Niobium is also extremely slow- 10-15 mins to get 1300units.

Can this be looked at please.

Offline SwiftWing
12-10-2023, 03:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-10-2023, 03:04 PM by SwiftWing.)
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(12-09-2023, 03:00 PM)Haste Wrote: It's just a high mining difficulty (low drop chance) and high average dropped amount. That is all. It's not overlapping fields or anything exciting.

I know that is one of the settings, but Why in the world is it set to Low drop rate and High yield, it's crazy to be set that bad, can it please be increased x2 or something that would still be a ten minute mining for these items. 20 Minutes is a Crazy amount of time to mine to fill a 5k that's 3 loads per hour! and 15k of ore, meaning if you had a barge it would take you 2 hours to fill it with one good miner!


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