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Offline Enojado
11-06-2010, 01:39 AM,
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*sigh* Why is it that whichever side of US politics you look at it's always (groups of) people with less integrity than a tell sell promoter?

And then all those devout followers on either side : ))))))))))))))

Right or left wing aside, Fox news adds a whole new dimension to narrow minded stupidity... Do the democrats have a similar propaganda spewing freak show going on? Honest question...

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Offline Agmen of Eladesor
11-06-2010, 03:45 PM,
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' Wrote:Right or left wing aside, Fox news adds a whole new dimension to narrow minded stupidity... Do the democrats have a similar propaganda spewing freak show going on? Honest question...

Yes.

It's called MSNBC / CNN / ABC / NBC / CBS / New York Times ....

The problem is that they're not the only ones on the air anymore. Bernard Goldberg (who worked for CBS from 1972 until 1999) and has won 10 Emmy awards for his work first wrote about this and how Dan Rather would shape the news to fit his beliefs more than a decade ago. He specifically lays out how the 'mainstream' media favored one view over the other and would distort the facts to support their side.

That might have been the end of it - until later on, it was proven that Dan Rather completely made up 'facts' during one of the Bush election campaigns. Oops...

Since then, the Media Research Center (http://www.mrc.org) has been systematically going through and pointing out just where and how liberal the main networks really are in the presenting of news. And I must also emphasize - the news reporting, as opposed to the opinion sections. For example, remember that Bill O'Reilly from Fox is primarily an opinion and editorial type commentator - NOT a straight news reporter like Shephard Smith. The line blurs when, and because, the 'mainstream' networks try to pass off people like Keith Olberman or Rachel Maddow as news reporters.

And of course, now we have Olberman suspended indefinitely without pay (fired) because he publicly violated the 'neutrality' that reporters are supposed to show because he made donations to Democrats....

You can also go to http://www.newsbusters.org if you want to see more fun about why the 'mainstream' media is so in the tank for the Democrats and liberalism. And if you're wondering why I put 'mainstream' in highlights, it's simple. They used to have the majority of viewership. Now Fox News - and the Fox News Channel - has more viewers than nearly all of the 'mainstream' media news programs ... combined.



(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
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Offline UURich
11-06-2010, 04:06 PM,
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The trouble with only listening to the neocons on Fox News is that you will get a single-sided opinion too. Listen to some of everything, read some of everything and formulate your own opinion. That's how Minnesota ended up with a second recount in two years.

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Offline Dusty Lens
11-06-2010, 04:22 PM,
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' Wrote:Yes.

It's called MSNBC / CNN / ABC / NBC / CBS / New York Times ....

The problem is that they're not the only ones on the air anymore. Bernard Goldberg (who worked for CBS from 1972 until 1999) and has won 10 Emmy awards for his work first wrote about this and how Dan Rather would shape the news to fit his beliefs more than a decade ago. He specifically lays out how the 'mainstream' media favored one view over the other and would distort the facts to support their side.

That might have been the end of it - until later on, it was proven that Dan Rather completely made up 'facts' during one of the Bush election campaigns. Oops...

Since then, the Media Research Center (http://www.mrc.org) has been systematically going through and pointing out just where and how liberal the main networks really are in the presenting of news. And I must also emphasize - the news reporting, as opposed to the opinion sections. For example, remember that Bill O'Reilly from Fox is primarily an opinion and editorial type commentator - NOT a straight news reporter like Shephard Smith. The line blurs when, and because, the 'mainstream' networks try to pass off people like Keith Olberman or Rachel Maddow as news reporters.

And of course, now we have Olberman suspended indefinitely without pay (fired) because he publicly violated the 'neutrality' that reporters are supposed to show because he made donations to Democrats....

You can also go to http://www.newsbusters.org if you want to see more fun about why the 'mainstream' media is so in the tank for the Democrats and liberalism. And if you're wondering why I put 'mainstream' in highlights, it's simple. They used to have the majority of viewership. Now Fox News - and the Fox News Channel - has more viewers than nearly all of the 'mainstream' media news programs ... combined.

*clicks Agmen's link*
*notes the banner requesting money to "Fight Liberal Bias" (apparently in favor of their own)*

A better link would be the following: http://factcheck.org/

It wont be that attractive to some people here, as it doesn't exclusively favor a chosen spectrum of American politics.
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Offline UURich
11-06-2010, 04:27 PM,
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' Wrote:*clicks Agmen's link*
*notes the banner requesting money to "Fight Liberal Bias" (apparently in favor of their own)*

A better link would be the following: http://factcheck.org/

It wont be that attractive to some people here, as it doesn't exclusively favor a chosen spectrum of American politics.

I'd agree with FactCheck. A site where you try and search for some sense of the truth without odd, slanted banner ads. You are right, it may be hard for some to read when the second story currently is about republicans helping to create stimulus jobs in China. :$

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Offline Dusty Lens
11-06-2010, 04:28 PM,
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' Wrote:I'd agree with FactCheck. A site where you try and search for some sense of the truth without odd, slanted banner ads. You are right, it may be hard for some to read when the second story currently is about republicans helping to create stimulus jobs in China. :$

"October 29, 2010
In a bit of political payback, several Republicans are running false or misleading TV ads accusing their opponents of shipping jobs to China '€” a charge that Democrats have frequently and often incorrectly leveled against Republicans. '€¦"

That one?

What a poignant exchange that was.
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Offline Marburg
11-06-2010, 07:56 PM,
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' Wrote:*sigh* Why is it that whichever side of US politics you look at it's always (groups of) people with less integrity than a tell sell promoter?
IMHO, The simplest answer to your question is that mainstream news in America is profit driven and on the bottom line, more concerned with ratings than anything else no matter what channel you watch. The old school concept of journalistic integrity that many people still cling to is very much a myth and simply doesn't exist on any of the networks. (most obviously on the news networks) Voyeurism, conflict, & misogyny is what gets people to tune in to any given channel & the goal is not to truly inform the public, but just to get you to watch their commercials during the breaks while giving the illusion of reporting "the news".

The long time practice of "If it bleeds, it leads" covers voyeurism, the daily pundit flame wars covers the conflict angle, & the multi-channel army of sexy infobabe newsbunnies covers the misogynistic part.

Oh, & The whole argument of conservativeberal media bias is just a red herring no matter what side you like to argue for because from the networks perspective, money is ultimately what drives the argument while ideology is only secondary to it.



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jetblack357
11-08-2010, 03:01 AM,
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Well I've been hearing some things lately guys, and um, well this looks to be our next president most likely

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Offline Xoria
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At 2:00, I heard the best news I've heard, hmmm, maybe ever.
For the first time in a decade, I can't wait 'till election year!
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Offline oZoneRanger
02-13-2011, 07:14 AM,
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"Im coming to shut it down"
"Don't get in my way"

He wants Jessie Ventura for VP, and loves Sara Palin.
Doesn't want to tax the rich.
Is a republican.

This guy is the next guy to get a Job at FOX news. Just watch.

--Edit-Then I saw THIS. You are right, it will be interesting.
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