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Offline Omicron
12-24-2012, 04:24 PM,
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Several points were given why this won't work in any way. You still persist. Just saying.

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Offline Zynth
12-25-2012, 05:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-25-2012, 06:18 AM by Zynth.)
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(12-24-2012, 04:09 PM)Reptile Wrote: your critics is bad.
first of all,Rheinland not producing so many hfuel - how many they need,like a Bretonian in Leeds and others.
THis is mean their houses are importing Hfuel from GMG,because their fuel are not enough for their needs.
Thats why it calls monopoly.
second,about powertrading.we have an admins,which can check screens about wrong using ships and do some FR5 in all sirius from GMG name.Or maybe delete this ships,for wrong using.
in real game,when i see people in cargohold in transport ship - im asking to drop them,because this is not cargo,this is humans,or dock with nearest station and sell them,because this is not slaves.Or i opening fire in RP.
Balance have nothing in your words,with this Forum balance soon Disco will has every evening lower than even 70 players,because there is no balance,not in RP and not in Real game.

Carriers = battleships
Carriers = cannot be used normal as carriers
Caships pirating poor transports,where pirate faction even have no fuel for using ships which they cannot build.
Tanker = simple trading ships.
and etc.
but anyway,i proposing only.

MOX from Bretonia and Rheinland. Promethene from Gallia. Deuterium from the Zoners.
Goodbye monopoly.

Admins have lives too, faction leaders don't have time to file out FR5s all the time.
Goodbye abuse point.

Please read carefully, I have brought up the MOX point earlier. There are alternate fuel sources. I took wasted my time reading your points. At least do the same to mine.

You say my critique is bad. Mind you, your response is worse to the point of inadequacy. Repeating failed points over and over again in the face of overwhelming odds does not help your case.
Don't kid me. You're way out of your league in terms of argumentation. Do yourself a favour and learn how to accept certain faults in your argument. Sometimes biting the bullet is a good idea.

If you wish to say my critique is bad. Then prove it.

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Offline Coin
12-25-2012, 05:53 AM,
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just no.


you want to make a 6ker AND remove the allowance for capship piracy.

oorp: how do you stop the abuse? its not possible to restrict a ship to one type of cargo.


inrp: how do you restrict a ship to one faction now we have powerplant nerf?

inrp: how do you explain the NEED for a large ship, which is the same as putting all your eggs in one basket, when a convoy of smaller ships has:
  • better firepower
  • better chance that one ship will escape, so at least some profit is made

yes, you have thought about balance, and lore. now you need to consider technicalities and prevention of abuse.

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Offline Reptile
12-25-2012, 07:04 AM,
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In RP MOX is using by the capital ships only.
But all infrastructure in houses using hfuel:
- freelancers
- miners
- traders
- corporations
- explorers
- police
- pirates
- service ships
- travel ships (touristic liners)
.....i mean all,and even some military using it in RP,such as Liberty,Kusari,and some part of Bretonia and Rheinland.
This is mean that all houses (an example Gallia lol) are must buy it from GMG monopolists.Their need is much bigger than their producing for their need,without GMG - they will be collapsed.
and MOX - this is fuel most part of Battleship and cruisers.Even GB by the rp must use hfuel.

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Offline Markus_Janus
12-25-2012, 08:24 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-25-2012, 08:24 AM by Markus_Janus.)
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Please perform better research into Sirius fuel economy, who uses it, who supplies it and how it is used.

Long story short, sorry bro, this is a bad idea.

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Offline Zynth
12-25-2012, 02:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-25-2012, 02:05 PM by Zynth.)
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(12-25-2012, 08:24 AM)Markus_Janus Wrote: Please perform better research into Sirius fuel economy, who uses it, who supplies it and how it is used.

Take a good long look at the above quote.

Before you go shooting your mouth off about fuel sources. Please read up.

MOX is not used by only capital ships.
In fact, I can tell for a fact that MOX is used widely by any big ships and various bases around Sirius. The fact that a Bretonian war with Kusari and how Bretonia is still able to fight on with H-fuel supplies cut off more or less proves your point wrong. LD-14 produces MOX capable of powering the Bretonian fleet. Other fuel sources such as Zoner deuterium and Gallic oil and promethene are also alternative fuel sources available.

InRPly, H-fuel is not the only fuel source available (or Gallia wouldn't exist) and the GMG does not hold a Sirius wide fuel monopoly. Even if it is one of the most widely used fuel, doesn't mean that it is the only fuel available and that everyone uses them.

But all that is irrelevant. Balancing issues trump RP reasons, no exceptions.
Due to the balance issues a ship like what you suggest will bring and the sheer headache of keeping it exclusive, this ship will never become reality.

On both fronts, RP and balance, you lose. This argument is over.

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