' Wrote:Two-three fighters with Sunslayers or Mini Razors can wreck havoc with a group of anti-cap GBs. Similarly, a few cruisers and bombers can pound the anti-fighter ones into oblivion. WHY are you trying to nerf ALL Gunboats? Two Adv. Debs and two Imp. Debs should NOT be able to do much to a GB. They have enough trouble with a Transport, and it's not even a military ship! No. Sorry people, but this looks like childish and PvP-whorish whining because YOU don't know how to hurt a gunboat! Ask Razr, or anyone who's been in SA at least half a year, it is NOT hard to defeat a gunboat if you know how.
Yes, the Cerberus' and the Gunships ARE overpowered. They NEED to be nerfed. HOWEVER! Does that mean that ALL Gunboats need to be nerfed? Of course not, that's ridiculous! That's like saying that because one Rheinland Bomber used to be able to single-handedly take out a BS, that we should make ALL bombers die if they fired their Torps! It's completely ridiculous!
Honestly, I have NEVER seen a thread on balance get as ridiculous as this.
'Nuff said, so i rest my case. i wont bothering replying here, sincethe message isnt seeming to sink into some people's brains. oh and if you decide toflame me after this, go ahead. itsnot going to botherme, since i aint reading this any more.:dry:
my last point before i stop, ONLY the GUNSHIPS and the CERBS need sorting out. the gunboats are fine as they are. the cerbs should be reverted to their previous state, since they were ideal then. and on the topic of a single fighter, trying to dent a gunboat's shields with 4 delibs, i think denelo answered that quesry VERY well, andVERY thouroughly.
Its the same as someone said before (didnt bother to quote it).
Because a few people know how to push ships to their limits doesnt mean it needs nerfing because the "main population" cant. Learn to fight/fly/cruise/dodge/whatever yourself, then come back and whine some more about its all being balanced in the favor of your enemy...
"If you cant beat them, join them" for those who dont want to learn something new
"War. War never changes. Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage."
' Wrote:Its the same as someone said before (didnt bother to quote it).
Because a few people know how to push ships to their limits doesnt mean it needs nerfing because the "main population" cant. Learn to fight/fly/cruise/dodge/whatever yourself, then come back and whine some more about its all being balanced in the favor of your enemy...
"If you cant beat them, join them" for those who dont want to learn something new
"War. War never changes. Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage."
2 average fighters can wreck any gunboat, and any gunship.
Always.
No exceptions.
If they have at least 1 shield buster each.
And at least 1 CD.
GB dies.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
2 average fighters can wreck any gunboat, and any gunship.
Always.
No exceptions.
If they have at least 1 shield buster each.
And at least 1 CD.
GB dies.
Ever tried this on a Lane Hacker gunship with 6 Cerbs?
Well I did with Frozen (in beta4)... we were in Wraths and had Mini-Razor and CD...and the pilot of the Gunship was not really good...it was very equal... I don't think we would have taken it out... if a bomber support didn't come in. Even with the bomber the Gunship was turning faster than him so he had problems hitting with the Supernova... But we killed him in the end.
I wouldn't dare to call Frozen an above average pilot:nono:
Good that both Cerbs and the LH gunship are getting changed......
Otherwise GBs are ok.... so lets wait until beta6 / final.
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
2 average fighters can wreck any gunboat, and any gunship.
Always.
No exceptions.
If they have at least 1 shield buster each.
And at least 1 CD.
GB dies.
Me in a GB, and 1 fighter have taken 4 GBs and 3 fighters, all of which had 2 Tizonas each, and I had only 4 GB turrets and 2 Cerbs. We won. Neither of us were dead, but all 7 enemies were. 2 fighters can ALWAYS kill a GB? I don't think so. Maybe against YOU, but YOU are not fact.
2 average fighters can wreck any gunboat, and any gunship.
Always.
No exceptions.
If they have at least 1 shield buster each.
And at least 1 CD.
GB dies.
chopper i think this is wrong opinion.i fight in my gb with 2 falcata bombers and i win,and pilots was not amateurs they know how use the ship, and have more then one shield buster
and i have gb not full loaded with cerbs,i only have one more cerb as in 4.83 version.so when you think that 2 fighters can always kill gb,you need very amateur gb pilot.
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