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Offline Omicron
10-01-2011, 10:11 PM,
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Being third person observator or indie, I watched Bretonia. I managed to figure out how Kusari aproximately works through I still don't get current way Bretonia goes. Main concerns are:

1. Bretonia-Rheinland war over Omegas. Why even bother to defend some ice asteroids?
2. Bretonian fuss over Omega-3 and Freeport 1, does Bretonia really needs it while at full scale war with Kusari.
3. Kusari was devastated in Nomad war yet it managed to get into Leeds. Any explanations?
4. Current stance on what's happening between Mollys & BAF.

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Offline Prysin
10-01-2011, 10:21 PM,
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Molly shoots KNF and Sairs and hogosha, once they are dead, they shoot BAF. And also works the other way around, UNLESS the mollies bring a dessy, then everyone shoots mollies...

Omega 3 is more of a strategic stronghold then its a source of resources.

Kusari is OP.... OP ships, OP guns, OP RP..... Kusari RP = racism... basically...

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Offline jammi
10-01-2011, 10:28 PM,
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' Wrote:Being third person observator or indie, I watched Bretonia. I managed to figure out how Kusari aproximately works through I still don't get current way Bretonia goes. Main concerns are:

1. Bretonia-Rheinland war over Omegas. Why even bother to defend some ice asteroids?
2. Bretonian fuss over Omega-3 and Freeport 1, does Bretonia really needs it while at full scale war with Kusari.
3. Kusari was devastated in Nomad war yet it managed to get into Leeds. Any explanations?
4. Current stance on what's happening between Mollys & BAF.
1. That was actually about Rheinland restricting access to Military Vehicles to Bretonia and not Kusari, Bowex fouling up that restriction (resulting in Rheinland mercs killing said ship in Bretonian space), then the RFP imposing draconian fines. The Bret government got involved, then the Rheinland government got involved, then Bretonia closed the Omega 3 jump gate while they considered what to do.

Rheinland saw this as a direct threat to the system and launched a military force to secure Rugen. The BAF responded in kind, launching a fleet to defend Douglas. Volia, Omega War. Just to note, Bretonia never pushed out of Omega 3, while Rheinland launched raids on Cambridge and even New London. It was eventually solved by Bowex and Adam Spire paying reparations.

2) Freeport 1 has been a constant pain because of militant governors, loose-cannon Zoners who break Bretonians laws, criminals basing from there to attack Bretonia (mostly Corsairs) and so on. This is mostly resolved now, but FP1 is still a bit of a contentious issue.

3) Igiss.

4) Completely fluid. The relationship changes on a daily basis. During the Omega War, the [M] faction sided with Rheinland for a bit, then changed its mind and sided with Bretonia for a bit. They'll usually target Kusari ships before BAF ones in a group fight, but it's totally down to the pilot in question.

Generally you'd expect them to shoot the Kusari first, seeing as in the lore they helped construct the Harris mine field and also drove the KNF out of Dundee. If there's no other priority targets about, the BAF and Mollys will usually kill each other as normal.

EDIT: Prysin, Kusari has OP guns? Disinfectors and Sunfrenzies? Go use them and decide for yourself.:lol:

But yeah, everything else except the guns is slightly OP.

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Offline Omicron
10-01-2011, 10:38 PM,
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' Wrote:1. That was actually about Rheinland restricting access to Military Vehicles to Bretonia and not Kusari, Bowex fouling up that restriction (resulting in Rheinland mercs killing said ship in Bretonian space), then the RFP imposing draconian fines. The Bret government got involved, then the Rheinland government got involved, then Bretonia closed the Omega 3 jump gate while they considered what to do.
Doesn't Liberty produce military vehicles as well?

' Wrote:3) Igiss.
Expected that.

' Wrote:4) Completely fluid. The relationship changes on a daily basis. During the Omega War, the [M] faction sided with Rheinland for a bit, then changed its mind and sided with Bretonia for a bit. They'll usually target Kusari ships before BAF ones in a group fight, but it's totally down to the pilot in question.

Generally you'd expect them to shoot the Kusari first, seeing as in the lore they helped construct the Harris mine field and also drove the KNF out of Dundee. If there's no other priority targets about, the BAF and Mollys will usually kill each other as normal.
Makes sense. Thanks.

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Offline Gruffalo
10-01-2011, 10:41 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-01-2011, 10:42 PM by Gruffalo.)
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' Wrote:Doesn't Liberty produce military vehicles as well?

Yes, but InRP, the Rheinland manufactured military vehicles are considered of a higher quality than the Liberty manufactured military vehicles.
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Offline Echo 7-7
10-02-2011, 03:59 AM,
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' Wrote:Doesn't Liberty produce military vehicles as well?

Also, for some obscure reason, Libertonian Military Vehicles (the commodity) only sells in Liberty (and a few places in Gallia).

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Offline Dane Summers
10-02-2011, 04:16 AM,
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' Wrote:2) Freeport 1 has been a constant pain because of militant governors, loose-cannon Zoners who break Bretonians laws, criminals basing from there to attack Bretonia (mostly Corsairs) and so on. This is mostly resolved now, but FP1 is still a bit of a contentious issue.

Bretonia considers Omega 3 there sovereign territory, despite the fact that this isnt recognised in lore or by the admins. O3 isnt any more bretonian space then magellan is, or bering. Regardless, they like to gobble up every system that even remotely shares a border with them - examples include Tau 31, and Tau 23.

unfortunately, Rheinland is just as guilt with omega 7, so the blame cant fall squarely on Bretonia.

Bretonia's rp is also monarchistic, and imperialist. Just like kusari, there just as racist, just as bloodthirsty, and care little for there own citizens. This falls in line with the prime aspect of Freelancer which is that "Every house is corrupt" - none of them are good guys, and never will be. after all, in rheinland, the kanzler is worshipped as a god.

As for FP1 - yes, decisions by past admin's have butted heads with bretonia - im working to overcome that, and progress is moving along nicely. Suffice it to say, FP1 is seen just as its infocard describes - a den of criminals and social outcasts, who consistently attack there former home - bretonia.

It should also be noted im working on a new FP1 infocard.

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Offline Dab
10-02-2011, 05:03 AM,
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Jammi posted good responses, but I'll add my opinions here as well.

' Wrote:1. Bretonia-Rheinland war over Omegas. Why even bother to defend some ice asteroids?
There are several reasons for our actions in regards to Omega-3, to Rheinland, etc.

A.) Omega-3 is considered our sovereignty. We've had gunboat and fighter NPCs there since Vanilla, and Douglas Station, the BMM one there, supports this roleplay. Furthermore, the Planet Sprague artifact mining operation was also under Bretonia's authority (the docking ring was BPA, if you want to go through SP and check).

B.) The Rheinland situation wasn't really what people think it was. Rheinland had blockaded Bretonia's access to their military vehicles for well over 6 months at the point where we placed an embargo on trade between Rheinland and Bretonia. We placed that embargo for three reasons; Rheinland had embargo'd military vehicles being given to us, Rheinland vessels had been caught inside Bretonia, attacking Bretonian shipping. They were not all indies. And lastly, Rheinland had nationalized the Copper fields in Omega-7.

C.) Omega-3 is as much a political and strategic position as a resource depot. The Freeport, oft-used by pirates and terrorists, is also a big thorn and reason for our presence there.

' Wrote:2. Bretonian fuss over Omega-3 and Freeport 1, does Bretonia really needs it while at full scale war with Kusari.

Freeport 1 is a threat to Bretonia's national security. As mentioned above, it is used by pirates and terrorists, causes diplomatic problems, and impedes the maintenance of security in Omega-3 and in Cambridge. We don't ignore one threat to deal with a 2nd, we do what we can against any threats we have. As you'll have noticed, the majority of our actions regarding Freeport 1 do not include military force. That is used on Kusari instead.

' Wrote:3. Kusari was devastated in Nomad war yet it managed to get into Leeds. Any explanations?
lol

' Wrote:4. Current stance on what's happening between Mollys & BAF.
Mollys are pirates and rebels. We do what needs to be done with pirates and rebels.

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Offline DarthBindo
10-02-2011, 05:18 AM,
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' Wrote:Mollys are pirates and rebels. We do what needs to be done with pirates and rebels.
Red Hessians.

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Offline Azan27
10-02-2011, 07:10 AM,
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' Wrote:Being third person observator or indie, I watched Bretonia. I managed to figure out how Kusari aproximately works through I still don't get current way Bretonia goes. Main concerns are:

1. Bretonia-Rheinland war over Omegas. Why even bother to defend some ice asteroids?
2. Bretonian fuss over Omega-3 and Freeport 1, does Bretonia really needs it while at full scale war with Kusari.
3. Kusari was devastated in Nomad war yet it managed to get into Leeds. Any explanations?
4. Current stance on what's happening between Mollys & BAF.


1. I'm gonna agree with pretty much everyone who has posted before me; 0-3 serves as a direction for Bretonia to expand its empire, it was a security risk, Rheinland had embargoed military vehicals for Bretonia yet was still shipping them to Kusari, Rheinland asked Bowex to pay fines that the Bretonian government felt were unjust, plus Bretonia has been in a pretty nasty situation with the Kusari, unable to retake any ground, and so a succesful campaign to increase power in the Omegas would have served as a huge moral booster.
Also, I'd like to add to this list the fact that a bunch of Das Wilde, disguised as Rheinland Military, destroyed a bunch of Bowex transports in New London right at the hight of non-violent tensions between Rheinland and Bretonia.

Summary: Things escalated; S**t happens.

2. This has something to do with the personal history of someone... I've got no clue about that part. Its mainly Disco history, I think FP1 has had a history of administrators that have butted heads with Bretonia, and the current administrator (Dane Summers) has unfortunatly gotten lumped in with these guys of old.
Aside from that, because station construction hasn't been implamented, if Bretonia wants to expand, they have to do it through FP1, essentially taking over the station, but FP1 doesn't want that, so; conflict. Also, I imadgen that FP1 could pose a slight risk in terms of being used to launch Corsair attacks.

3. 40% of this, as far as I can tell, is due to the ship design of Kusari versus Bretonian ships. I've heard horror stories of the old Red Catamaran bomber that was a KNF ship for most of the Tau war in the beginning. Pretty damn hard to compete against that. Another 50% is due to smart diplomacy on the part of Kusari, who have managed to maintain very good relations with the number of 'neutral' groups in the Taus. I'm not saying they are best buddies with the Tau fellows, but rather than otherwise independant groups in the taus hate Bretonia a lot more than they do Kusari.

4. Depends on how drunk the Mollys are. I'd probably be best to get some mollys in here to explain things.

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