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3. Kusari was devastated in Nomad war yet it managed to get into Leeds. Any explanations?

One possible reason is, that Kusari has the support of three paramilitary factions: The Hogosha, the Farmer's Alliance and the Gaians. The BAF have the Mollies which are quite erratic. GC support is not nearly as strong or frequent as support from the Kusari-sided factions. The occasional Outcast lawlcap does not count.
Plus, Bretonia had to deal with the Nomad War itself.

[blubba]

In the old days, arms were illegal in Bretonia anyway weren't they?
I mean before the Kusari/Bret war?
From around the SA days?
I know this has little to do with it but just trying to get some background history.
Does anyone out there recall and help an old fogey out?


Corsairs base out of the FP?
I suppose they might run there....but based there?
Isn't Cadiz nearer AND safer?
They'd have to fly past that battleship in Cambridge everytime otherwise (or is this an 'RP' thing?)

The last one is rhetorical question I suppose. I'm sure you are right. They must do but maybe they are the exception, rather than the rule.

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[jammi]

One possible reason is, that Kusari has the support of three paramilitary factions: The Hogosha, the Farmer's Alliance and the Gaians. The BAF have the Mollies which are quite erratic. GC support is not nearly as strong or frequent as support from the Kusari-sided factions. The occasional Outcast lawlcap does not count.
Plus, Bretonia had to deal with the Nomad War itself.

The Farmer's Alliance shouldn't, technically, even be there. The Hogsha - or even both combined - aren't enough to factor into changing the course of a military campaign.

Bretonia was the only nation who did not have to deal with Rheinland for the majority of the war, and escaped relatively unscathed. Kusari had it's entire fleet destroyed in Honshu. Bit of a difference. :/

The easiest way to explain it would be "Bretonia didn't upgrade anything in the 13 years between single player and war being declared, while Kusari summoned a Djinn and magicked themselves up an entire Tau invasion fleet."

Well, that or 'Igiss'.

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The Farmer's Alliance shouldn't, technically, even be there. The Hogsha - or even both combined - aren't enough to factor into changing the course of a military campaign

But still, they are factors the Bretonians are lacking.

Bretonia was the only nation who did not have to deal with Rheinland for the majority of the war, and escaped relatively unscathed. Kusari had it's entire fleet destroyed in Honshu. Bit of a difference. :/

I remember fighting hordes of Rheinlanders in Leeds, Dublin, Cambridge, Omega 3 and Tau 31 in the SP Campaign :cool:
Also, if I remember correctly, that Von Claussen guy mentioned during a later mission (when you were already in the Order) that the Nomads had started their assault on Bretonia.

[Eichann Rush]

After Ralston's Deception and the destruction the HMS-Audacity, the Molly Council ripped up the armistice signed by Breen almost a year before, and entered a state of total revolution.
After the decline of the Council, the [M]ollys entered the scene, and began organizing large-scale lightning raids on Bretonian mining operations.
That's the state of it.

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[Snak5]

QCP is equivalent to Hogosha.

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Kusari / Bretonia stuff makes no sense if you look at it.
Kusari faced the brunt of the infected Rheinland fleet and suffered pretty massive losses. Whilst it may have only been a single system fleet they lost, that's still a massive chunk of their military and not something you can replace inside a couple of years.
Considering that Kusari lost a large part of it's military and would have had major economical/production issues while Bretonia escaped pretty much unscathed from the Nomad war with almost the entirety of its fleet intact and a prospering economy working well, it makes no sense that Kusari would be able to wage a good war with Bretonia.

Even in terms of an arms race, they were even in Vanilla. Kusari lost a chunk and some economy. Bretonia lost none. If production had continued on even at the same rate as before Vanilla, Bretonia would still have an advantage.
That's without considering that Kusari would need extra forces to keep the Kusari borders safe while the bulk was out in the Tau's conquering.

Reduced Kusari fleet, further reduced by being the attacking force, somehow is beating (Or at least forcing a stalemate in the Tau's even) a larger Bretonian fleet, fighting on home turf and with the backing of a strong stable economy.

Brilliant logic ey?

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[Daedric]

Same logic allows Rheinland to hold off Liberty.........when Liberty walked into Rheinland rather quickly back in the day when Rheinland actually had a fleet.

Not actually logic is it?

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4. Depends on how drunk the Mollys are. I'd probably be best to get some mollys in here to explain things.

With all do respect, I think all mollys were drunk:lol:...................just kidding lad, but here is my ingame personal observation.

1. BAF busy killing KNF and paramilitary Hogosha family named themself [Avenger] ( [|] obviously not paramilitary family, since [|] never step his foot on Leeds )
   
2. Mollys busy mining other miner such as IMG, BMM
   

So I guess they wont bother each other for now

The Farmer's Alliance shouldn't, technically, even be there. The Hogsha - or even both combined - aren't enough to factor into changing the course of a military campaign.

Bretonia was the only nation who did not have to deal with Rheinland for the majority of the war, and escaped relatively unscathed. Kusari had it's entire fleet destroyed in Honshu. Bit of a difference. :/

The easiest way to explain it would be "Bretonia didn't upgrade anything in the 13 years between single player and war being declared, while Kusari summoned a Djinn and magicked themselves up an entire Tau invasion fleet."

Well, that or 'Igiss'.

So Igiss is the Djinn ? What a shocking fact:D
Back to Leeds case, I got few theory, but one of them is cuz Imperial Kusari Imperial government is a bit soft or maybe I can say cooperative to any criminal surround them than Kingdom of Bretonia. This result Kusari economy more develop than Bretonia economy.

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Being third person observator or indie, I watched Bretonia. I managed to figure out how Kusari aproximately works through I still don't get current way Bretonia goes. Main concerns are:

1. Bretonia-Rheinland war over Omegas. Why even bother to defend some ice asteroids?
2. Bretonian fuss over Omega-3 and Freeport 1, does Bretonia really needs it while at full scale war with Kusari.
3. Kusari was devastated in Nomad war yet it managed to get into Leeds. Any explanations?
4. Current stance on what's happening between Mollys & BAF.

1: Omega 3 is a primary site of Hydrocarbons, which are a key resource in many industries. Both Rheinland and Bretonia mine those resources at Rugen and Douglas respectively. Omega 3 also contains one terrestrial planet that with very little effort could be made into a colonized world - provided the classified Dom'Kvosh excavations are kept off limits.

2: Don't know. But a station harboring known enemies, right at your doorstep (FP1 is one lane away from the Cambridge gate) is likely to draw some ire.

3: They had 20 years to rebuild and rearm. Remember, the Rheinland fleet that defeated the Kusari navy (did they annihilate the sum of them?) hightailed it home shortly before the Nomad defeat at the hands of the Order in the singleplayer campaign. So Kusari was left with an intact infrastructure, but a very damaged military fleet. Result? They'd repair what they can, and rebuild from scratch what needed replacing. Means they probably had the most modern navy around... And don't forget that Bretonia was attacked as well.

4: No clue. Tends to vary on a month-by-month basis. On my (non-BAF) armed forces char I assume them hostile until proven useful.

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