The Kusari Exiles (4.86)

[Dab]

First off this will be a (everyone get ready to scream and yell) a closed faction. There will be no indies.

Who made this decision, I'm curious to know?

I've yet to hear a single dev say that the faction was planned to be closed.

There is an ID, there is an NPC faction (Technically Kusari Exiles, so you need to update your ID listing to state Kusari Exile ID, not Ronin ID). This faction is the same as every other faction, there is no need for it to be closed. I have yet to see any sort of decision by the dev team, which I happen to be on, to make this faction a closed faction.

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[Zelot]

zelot - haven t we made the ronin a NPC faction?

i mean - with ... err.. NPCs flying around and all... i thought we did that.

without malicious intent - can you state the reason for and against that faction being "open for indies" ?

I would actually rather not, since the decision is made and it wont be changing, I don't think there is much reason for going back and forth on it more. Whether you believe it or not, I really spent a long time going back and forth on it, and I don't intent to spend more time going back and forth on it.

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[Zelot]

Who made this decision, I'm curious to know?

I've yet to hear a single dev say that the faction was planned to be closed.

There is an ID, there is an NPC faction (Technically Kusari Exiles, so you need to update your ID listing to state Kusari Exile ID, not Ronin ID). This faction is the same as every other faction, there is no need for it to be closed. I have yet to see any sort of decision by the dev team, which I happen to be on, to make this faction a closed faction.

The dev team doesn't make that decision.

I also dont see why the faction being open or closed has anything to do with the dev process.

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[Linkus]

The dev team doesn't make that decision.

It makes the decision of if the faction exists at all?

There is always the possibility of having no people play as the Ronin and instead using them as a plot tool.

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Facilitating the rise of robotics since 0 A.D.

[Dab]

I would actually rather not, since the decision is made and it wont be changing, I don't think there is much reason for going back and forth on it more. Whether you believe it or not, I really spent a long time going back and forth on it, and I don't intent to spend more time going back and forth on it.

Rather not? Rather not what, have the NPC faction in-game? Well, you're right in that a decision has been made, and I highly doubt it will be changing. That decision being, there is an NPC faction in existence for this, and it is in-game.

The dev team doesn't make that decision.

Nor does the person with a conflict of interest.

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[Zelot]

It makes the decision of if the faction exists at all?

There is always the possibility of having no people play as the Ronin and instead using them as a plot tool.

Excuse me, you can play this game all you want. Take them out, good, less work for me to do. Please, and everyone can see that some members of the Dev team only want to use their position to force people to listen to them. Go ahead, I dare you.

Edit: this post is for Dab too, go ahead.

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[Linkus]

Excuse me, you can play this game all you want. Take them out, good, less work for me to do. Please, and everyone can see that some members of the Dev team only want to use their position to force people to listen to them. Go ahead, I dare you.

As opposed to an Admin stopping indies playing alongside the faction he leads?
Yes, I can see how this is completely different.
You have not at all used your Admin position to force people not to play as Ronin indies.

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Facilitating the rise of robotics since 0 A.D.

[Zelot]

As opposed to an Admin stopping indies playing alongside the faction he leads?
Yes, I can see how this is completely different.
You have not at all used your Admin position to force people not to play as Ronin indies.

You dont need admin power for that as you know, just look at the CR and SCRA, two factions, you are in the leadership of, or have been in the past, correct?

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[Dab]

Excuse me, you can play this game all you want. Take them out, good, less work for me to do. Please, and everyone can see that some members of the Dev team only want to use their position to force people to listen to them. Go ahead, I dare you.

Edit: this post is for Dab too, go ahead.

Force people to listen to them? You told something that wasn't true, we pointed out that what you said wasn't true, so now we're abusing our power?

Yes, that makes sense.

Fact of the matter is, there is an NPC faction for this, there is nothing different about this faction than the BAF, KNF, GRN, or any other faction related to the Gallic storyline.

And I have yet to see any admin ruling, or dev team ruling, stating this to be closed.

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[Zelot]

Force people to listen to them? You told something that wasn't true, we pointed out that what you said wasn't true, so now we're abusing our power?

Yes, that makes sense.

Fact of the matter is, there is an NPC faction for this, there is nothing different about this faction than the BAF, KNF, GRN, or any other faction related to the Gallic storyline.

And I have yet to see any admin ruling, or dev team ruling, stating this to be closed.

Where is the admin notice on the SCRA and CR?

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