' Wrote:Do you notice your hypocrisy? The Corsair factions arent raiding because they are inactive. 8 months ago you had no problem taking 5 Sails and 4 Osirises with you and raiding Dublin and Omicron Alpha 5 times a week. How can you openly switch opinions however it suits you, and be a hypocrite, just to get your way? You disgust me.
Oh, really? http://www.discoverygc.com/server/activity_summary.html . Inactive you say? I don't think so. The raiding Alpha 5 times a week is a lie (yes, indies too it all the time) and taking 4 Osirises to Dublin only happened once, as far as I remember. You disgust me too, btw. You and your boys are in Gamma every day and I don't have a problem with it so why are you so hostile?
Edit: oh, one more thing: we raid (omegas, Bretonia, Rheinland, etc) because we're pirates so I don't understand why is that a problem. The Alpha lolraids are a different matter but I don't think you ever saw us in our enemies home systems and even if we did it once or twice, we don't sit on top of their bases every day. We never said we want to destroy the Coalition, RoS, Mollys, Hessians, etc. We just want to be left alone so we can do our thing
More edit: aren't we talking about the closed ID'd factions anyway? How did we get to the corsair thing and personal flaming and stuff? The SCRA is doing it just a bit wrong, but that's just my opinion and with that its time to abandon thread
I was there when you raided 5 times weekly. Stop trying to lie to me because I actually know what you are like, and I can look through this facade of you on the forums.
' Wrote:More edit: aren't we talking about the closed ID'd factions anyway? How did we get to the corsair thing?
By your inventive lies that managed to switch the focus of every post and make the Corsair look like victims while everyone else that steps into Gamma is a bad person and a "pvpwhore" as you called them. Now that people called you out on that, you are trapped in your own game and unfortunately, there is no referee.
' Wrote:personal flaming and stuff?
Flaming? No I am simply calling you out on your lies. Stop trying to get out of the accusing fact by using the rules. It wont help your case.
' Wrote:Ok, one more time: we do not pirate because we want to get rich (like the Outcasts and Cardamine) we pirate because we want to get enough to survive and defend ourselves from all the people wanting us dead (SCRA, Hessians, Mollys, Bounty Hunters, bretonians, rheinlanders, IMG, etc). We don't do it for personal gain but for our nation's survival. Why is that so hard to understand?
No, we are not imperialistic. I said it earlier, we were there first so you're the invaders, not us
I know why you pirate - you take what you need, because no one will just give it to you. You demand it, because your people are more deserving - it's like what Ezio *cough* i mean Bindo said in his monologue - They were blessed with everything, and you guys made a choice to have nothing - Otherwise you'd all be hanging out on Malta.
I can make a really funny joke about how this all relates to the console wars - how kids would beg there parents for a gaming console, and if it turned out to be junk, they'd still defend it with vigor, just so they wouldnt have to face buyers remorse.
But I digress.
The corsairs are born out of necessity - they take, and they take, and they take. I believe there human nature will be, that should they suddenly have no more left to take, they will invariably find new things with which they can...take. By force.
' Wrote:I was there when you raided 5 times weekly. Stop trying to lie to me because I actually know what you are like, and I can look through this facade of you on the forums.
No, I wasn't. It's true I went to Alpha with my |Sails chars and I went to Gamma with my [RF] chars on few occasion (maybe 5 to 10 times for each in all my time here), but from there to raiding 5 times a week its a long way to go
' Wrote:By your inventive lies that managed to switch the focus of every post and make the Corsair look like victims while everyone else that steps into Gamma is a bad person and a "pvpwhore" as you called them. Now that people called you out on that, you are trapped in your own game and unfortunately, there is no referee.
The dicussion was about the RP involving the Corsairs and SCRA, not about the daily raids. The Corsairs are the InRP victims of destiny and not even you can deny it. What happens in game its a different story but if you bother to read a few pages back you will see that this discussion was based on RP arguments and not guns getting nerfed or crap like that
Yes, both Alpha and Gamma should not be raided 5 times a day simply because it makes no sense in RP to have 5 Dreads bombarding Crete or Malta
I have no problems with PvP-whores, you misread my post. What I wanted to say is that an average player (like me and 90% of the player base) can't use the Titan at 100% so it can't benefit from all its advantages, thus having a different opinion on how good the Titan or any other ships is. A ship should be balanced for the average player, not for the little few with very good skills and to make sure you don't misunderstand me again I'll say it one more time: the Titan works perfectly as long as you use it for what it was built for
' Wrote:Flaming? No I am simply calling you out on your lies. Stop trying to get out of the accusing fact by using the rules. It wont help your case.
Yes, thats what I thought.
What rules are you talking about? I simply don't enjoy talking to people that can't keep an argument civil and I've already said all I wanted to say about the matter at hand so I don't want to waste anymore time on it
' Wrote:We don't pirate because we feel we deserve more, we pirate because we need to do it and because, like Blubba said, our exports have been declared contraband for reasons that elude me.
This is a (debatable) problem with the lore of discovery.
But, and it's a big but.
You've never tried to change this, having simply assumed that all the houses would turn around and go "lolno". Yet there are two houses which you have an essentially neutral relationship with (or at least, were to have a neutral relationship with were it not for a history of indies sailing through Alaska to raid New York). Perhaps the main problem is that the Corsairs have very little else to offer. However, that's a problem of creativity.
You know what they say, where there's a will, there's a way.
As for the rest of what you've said about Corsairs, there are bits I disagree with. Corsairs want a stable food supply, and while I was in TBH, we were slowly grinding on about eventual plans to conquer Cambridge.
Corsairs also do pirate for individual gain in wealth and so on. That's what pirates do. It may, and does, help the Corsair homeworld to thrive, but that doesn't change the fact that stealing is motivated by self interest as well as overall interest.
However, I do agree that massive cap raids on Corsairland are stupid. Of course, this problem would not exist were there to be a consequence for such an action...
' Wrote:This is a (debatable) problem with the lore of discovery.
But, and it's a big but.
You've never tried to change this, having simply assumed that all the houses would turn around and go "lolno". Yet there are two houses which you have an essentially neutral relationship with (or at least, were to have a neutral relationship with were it not for a history of indies sailing through Alaska to raid New York). Perhaps the main problem is that the Corsairs have very little else to offer. However, that's a problem of creativity.
You know what they say, where there's a will, there's a way.
As for the rest of what you've said about Corsairs, there are bits I disagree with. Corsairs want a stable food supply, and while I was in TBH, we were slowly grinding on about eventual plans to conquer Cambridge.
Corsairs also do pirate for individual gain in wealth and so on. That's what pirates do. It may, and does, help the Corsair homeworld to thrive, but that doesn't change the fact that stealing is motivated by self interest as well as overall interest.
However, I do agree that massive cap raids on Corsairland are stupid. Of course, this problem would not exist were there to be a consequence for such an action...
Kusari has (kinda) opened up to us and we stopped pirating there a long time ago (that might change with the new government and all) but I wasn't around the Council back then so I don't know why the Elders didn't push for tighter relations. It might be because we have very little to offer except artifacts and cash. Yes, we have cash and corporations should be flooding us with products because of our emerging markets but so far only Samura took that step and it's working out quite well for them since being immune to corsair piracy is a big advantage and I would love to be contacted by some Liberty Corporations who don't care about us smuggling artifacts there
It's more like we need to conquer Cambridge but its a big difference between that and what Dane said about ruling Bretonia or Rheinland
The individual gain part is relative since the his Hispanic / Mediterranean / Latin culture is based around the extended family. While it may seem that one pirates for himself he's actually doing it for a lot of people waiting at home
' Wrote:I was there when you raided 5 times weekly. Stop trying to lie to me because I actually know what you are like, and I can look through this facade of you on the forums.
By your inventive lies that managed to switch the focus of every post and make the Corsair look like victims while everyone else that steps into Gamma is a bad person and a "pvpwhore" as you called them. Now that people called you out on that, you are trapped in your own game and unfortunately, there is no referee.
Flaming? No I am simply calling you out on your lies. Stop trying to get out of the accusing fact by using the rules. It wont help your case.
Yes, thats what I thought.
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