' Wrote:I heard angry mutters in chats about it being OP.
That's the problem with specialized ships. They are very good in one situation and might look really OP, but in the other (say group fight) they are pethetic view to watch..
' Wrote:Now it has 6 class 10 guns and loses the turret, the CD and torp slot are still there:) is HUGE indeed, but people seems to forget the fact about the Werewolf, is not a normal pvp ship... is meant for pirate, instead of fighting lawful forces or else.
I wonder , what is the point of doing piracy with this ship when you could use a Barghest ?
With it, i hardly beated an Arrasta.And if it had SNAC, let's say i would have been shot.
I still use it, but in fact i don't see why it is supposed to be used for.
In fact, which ships are to be used for PVP in the Z-line ?
By the way, what is the point in having a class 1 turret on the greyhound, instead of of class 2 ( it had class5 one, back in 4.85 ) ?
(03-31-2010, 11:48 PM)Sprolf Wrote: That is the crux of the matter.
If you aid us, and you aid them, you are the enemy.
If you do not aid them, you are worthless outside of extortion potential.
If you aid us, you will be treated with respect.
' Wrote:That's the problem with specialized ships. They are very good in one situation and might look really OP, but in the other (say group fight) they are pethetic view to watch..
This- even every single normal VHF pilot can beat it now but it has its own little place- to pirate transports with it- even if barghest is better then it, due to really little flying time for me now I havent tested it vs good VHF piliot or vs good bomber pilot- I am sure good roc will beat me 100%. And this is the buffed 4.86 version- it could be OP in some situations yes- vs GB for example but still the tartarus gun have limited range and the ship is big and will take dmg from GB on every shoot of the gun. However you can shoot snacs with Barghest on the same rate that you can shoot Tartarus and snacs do more shield dmg.
I have pirated a lot with it and in 4.86 v1 and v2 when the novas hited properly agaist shields Barghest was simply better for the job.
The ship could be better in piracy with 4 class 10 guns only for example and more core power like 20k as proposed , however I think that having 6 class 10 guns and more core will be super- then the ship will be comatable with Barghest in Piracy, adding more energy core on slower and bigger ship means only that it could hurt the bigger ships better- it wont change much in PvP vs bombers or fighters really.
You need 40 sec to take down adv transp shield for example- it is a way better then VHF but still not comparable with Barghest. Still I love the idea of pirate SHF (harder then barghest)and use it a lot.
' Wrote:I wonder , what is the point of doing piracy with this ship when you could use a Barghest ?
With it, i hardly beated an Arrasta.And if it had SNAC, let's say i would have been shot.
I still use it, but in fact i don't see why it is supposed to be used for.
In fact, which ships are to be used for PVP in the Z-line ?
By the way, what is the point in having a class 1 turret on the greyhound, instead of of class 2 ( it had class5 one, back in 4.85 ) ?
Grey got 4 class10 slots now, more hull class 10 shield and more energy- put 4 codes on it and deb turret and it should be fine for PvP even if cannot fire tartartus - it is still sluggish a bit and still eagle is better then it but at least is not underpowered like all Molly/LR fighters in 4.85, however minding that it is bigger then Templar, cannot strafe at all and have only 4 guns and one class 1 turret.. it will be nice to reciveve 12k core or class 2 turret indeed.
Other thing about it I am not sure if it turns slower now.
' Wrote:No thanks, its fine.
It is a way too small for VHF- it is scitmar with VHF features.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:I wonder , what is the point of doing piracy with this ship when you could use a Barghest ?
It's a bit more universal then it comes to fighting fighters. And indeed it can rape VHF's if one on one. But if you find yourself in a group fight... wise choice would be run then you find a chance.
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