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It seems new players aren't wanted in this game
Offline Admtahoe
05-10-2012, 12:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012, 12:41 AM by Admtahoe.)
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About 10 of us started playing this game with the last month and we have been trading, doing missions, etc.. and trying to decide what we wanted to do with our characters.

So we decided to have a zoner faction.

Long story short, one of our members got a capital ship today and the admins told him he can't have it.

WTF????????


We can't play the game? I did not read anywhere in the server rules that say only certain people can have a cap ship.

If we can't have capital ships where is the fun for us?


We should be able to purchase any ship we want, it's a game. Are we suppose to just have baby ships and let everyone own us?

So now 2 of the people that came over with me have perm quit and deleted their accounts.


So why exactly can't we buy ships in this game, can anyone explain it?
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Offline Venkman
05-10-2012, 12:46 AM,
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' Wrote:Long story short, one of our members got a capital ship today and the admins told him he can't have it.

ADMIN told you that?

WHat is his name.....?

And if it was really an Admin i'm sure that he would tell that with a reason.



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Offline Madvillain
05-10-2012, 12:51 AM,
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If this is true your capship probably did stuff in total disregard of the rules and whatever.
anyway , I've never enjoyed flying a capship.
It's about the most boring thing there is next to trading.

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Offline Veygaar
05-10-2012, 12:55 AM,
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Seems like you're not seeing the whole picture. As I didn't when I first started playing.

A detailed look at the Official Rules will help you understand your specific case.

Perhaps you were flying the capital ship in house space (zoners have to stay in independent systems) or perhaps you had the wrong ID. Take a look and I'm sure you'll find the answer to your question.

Every ship can be had, but one has to go about it the right way.

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Offline dodike
05-10-2012, 12:57 AM,
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' Wrote:Perhaps you were flying the capital ship in house space (zoners have to stay in independent systems) or perhaps you had the wrong ID.
What, no Zoner Jinkusus in house space anymore?
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Offline Govedo13
05-10-2012, 12:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012, 01:00 AM by Govedo13.)
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May be because you are doing it wrong- with 3-4 official zoner factions and several unofficial ones you could have plenty of help and input if you have asked. I bet that most of the zoner people would help you, if you have some questions how to pirate stuff you can bump me for example. A good start in this game provides the forum and the info here- instead of wasting your time in game better read here 1-2 hours and you would safe yourself ton of lost time. I bet that you wont have fun in caps if more skilled people pwn you so so it is good idea to get the basics anyway.

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Offline Lumik
05-10-2012, 01:06 AM,
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New players are wanted but they have to obey the rules. But until you tell us your short story in longer version with details and names (for example type of ship and system you were in), nobody can´t tell you what was wrong. Also name of person who told that can help. Some bad bad players are sometimes acting like admins but they are not (by the way example of players who is not so wanted in this game and are usually punished).


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Offline Admtahoe
05-10-2012, 01:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012, 01:15 AM by Admtahoe.)
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Ok, a couple of things.

We were at the understanding zoners can go anywhere, doesn't their ID say that?

So if you have to stay in your own space, where is the fun in the game? This is a Game, right?


As far as knowing what we are doing, that statement is off base.

We don't want to join anyone because some people feel they are superior to others and these forums are a good example of it.

We want to be our own group, we read the rules, but regardless.


Yes he flew into omega 3 and they said they can't have the ship there. So what is the point in having any ship if you can't fly into zones and fight?

Is everyone just floating around in space in their own territory and watching the stars, drinking margaritas and talking about the good ole days when they could actually do something?


There are ships of all classes for a reason, that reason is defense and offense or what some people would call a battle, fight or war. What is wrong with having our own faction and doing just that?

Some of us don't want to join another group only so we can be treated like low life scrubs and go through a rank system where we can be ordered around like the military.

I have read these forums for hours. I read the server rules.

the zoner id says:

Can attack lawful and unlawful targets in self-defense, to protect another trader, or in defense of Zoner bases.
Cannot dock cruisers, battleships, or transports with more than 3,600 cargo within House Space, except Aomori Station, the Battleship Hood and Zoner bases.


where does that say we can't be in house space? It DOES say we can't land with more than 3600 cargo. BUT IT DOES NOT say we can't go into other space.


Some houses such as Rheinland do have "Their" rules, but agian, that is "THEIR" rules. The Rheinland military rules say cap ships can't be with so many Kilometers of planets and stations, but then again, make the game fun, let them fight us.


Why are players required to abide by rules "other players" created?

No game is fun when everyone has to play a certain way that others have decided for them.


Now if the server rules say otherwise, fine, But I read the server rules and unless I missed it, I didn't see where we can't go into other territory.
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Offline dodike
05-10-2012, 01:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012, 01:15 AM by dodike.)
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' Wrote:I have read these forums for hours. I read the server rules.
Unwritten rules also exist and are enforced. To know about them you need to read the entire forums.

Does your group fly under one tag and use multiple IDs?
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
05-10-2012, 01:15 AM,
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' Wrote:Ok, a couple of things.

We were at the understanding zoners can go anywhere, doesn't their ID say that?

It has no restrictions to my knowledge.

So if you have to stay in your own space, where is the fun in the game? This is a Game, right?
As far as knowing what we are doing, that statement is off base.

My god, even a new guy can think of that. *claps*

We don't want to join anyone because some people feel they are superior to others and these forums are a good example of it.

Internet man. It happens.

We want to be our own group, we read the rules, but regardless.
Yes he flew into omega 3 and they said they can't have the ship there. So what is the point in having any ship if you can't fly into zones and fight?

Omega 3? That should be fine, I mean, FP1 has a defense force with multiple caps.

Is everyone just floating around in space in their own territory and watching the stars, drinking margaritas and talking about the good ole days when they could actually do something?

Cybering. You forgot cybering.

And actually, many defend thier territory from pirates.



There are ships of all classes for a reason, that reason is defense and offense or what some people would call a battle, fight or war. What is wrong with having our own faction and doing just that?

None at all.

Some of us don't want to join another group only so we can be treated like low life scrubs and go through a rank system where we can be ordered around like the military.

I know how you feel man.

I have read these forums for hours. I read the server rules.

the zoner id says:

Can attack lawful and unlawful targets in self-defense, to protect another trader, or in defense of Zoner bases.
Cannot dock cruisers, battleships, or transports with more than 3,600 cargo within House Space, except Aomori Station, the Battleship Hood and Zoner bases.

where does that say we can't be in house space? It DOES say we can't land with more than 3600 cargo. BUT IT DOES NOT say we can't go into other space.

That it does not. It honestly should not. None should. But that's a discussion for another thread.

Name of the Admin would help you find out if it was legitimate, an imposter/troll, or a misunderstanding.

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