' Wrote:I find it funny, how people take their subjective judgment and present it as objective fact in the argument with nothing to give it weight. Alltough I would be intrested to hear what kind of specific parameters you are reffering to about the ship from which it takes it's opness, I suggest you to open another thread for that.
I never claimed the Lhtose was overpowered, simply that even with ships such as Odin, you make it look like they need a buff when you use them. So just as much as my arrogance makes me 'incompetent' to judge balance, I'd say your inability to actually use any VHF correctly would make you just as incompetent, considering numbers only matter so much.
' Wrote:Unlike your skill and stuff like that, numbers can be messured and objectivly invaluated. And claiming that they don't matter is just nuts.
Dunno, just fought Igor's Bayonet with a Sabre and was behind him a majority of the time, numbers are in his favor, but he obviously did something wrong, right? Numbers matter, but they aren't everything, which is what you're basing this off of entirely.
' Wrote:Unlike your skill and stuff like that, numbers can be messured and objectivly invaluated. And claiming that they don't matter is just nuts.
You probably don't even know how to calculate out the numbers you are mentioning, since it's not as easy as reading them from a program such as FLStat. But, even then, with the numbers on your side, your inability to fly with any stats would make your judgement irrelevant.
Sorry Igor, I'm as nub as you used to be a year a go. Maybe a bit better.
Could you refrain yourself from personal assumptions?
My judgment on many ships was sort of right. Nyx, Arbeiter, Procurator. On rheinland unlawful guns and so on so on. This is just another instance of that. Numbers is measurement of preformance you can get from the ship. Of course it's not whole the data and not the whole picture. But a bit flying on your own, a bit fighting it on your own + judging the numbers and equipment it can use. Keeping size in mind.. you can pretty much picture the ship limits.
What razr is reffering it flight tactics / how-to stuff and a some practise on top of that. Which is totaly player side. However no matter how much you put into it ship technical parameters has it's limits which are defined with so called "numbers".
If razr you would have fought overall equal player in terms of polished tactics bayo would have stood on his arse. Because of same parameters which are expressed in numbers.
' Wrote:If razr you would have fought overall equal player in terms of polished tactics bayo would have stood on his arse. Because of same parameters which are expressed in numbers.
But if buff via numbers is the answer why would my tactics matter? Otherwise that might suggest you just can't fly the ship you think needs a buff, correct?
' Wrote:But if buff via numbers is the answer why would my tactics matter? Otherwise that might suggest you just can't fly the ship you think needs a buff, correct?
Otherwise I think you just suck, that's why you think that starflea is weaker than Chimmy. See how stupid this sounds? Principal is exactly the same, just the technical diffrence is a lot smaller.
' Wrote:Sorry Igor, I'm as nub as you used to be a year a go. Maybe a bit better.
Could you refrain yourself from personal assumptions?
You weren't even playing a year ago so you have no idea how I flew a year ago.
And assumptions? They aren't assumptions. I'm calling you bad, because well, you're bad. It's a fact, not an assumption.
' Wrote:What razr is reffering it flight tactics / how-to stuff and a some practise on top of that. Which is totaly player side. However no matter how much you put into it ship technical parameters has it's limits which are defined with so called "numbers".
If that's the case, then you wont mind taking an Odin and fighting his Lhotse, since the numbers are on your side. If the Lhotse is underpowered and useless, you will beat him with ease since he can't exceed it's numbers, right?
' Wrote:If razr you would have fought overall equal player in terms of polished tactics bayo would have stood on his arse. Because of same parameters which are expressed in numbers.
Heh. You really need to make up your mind. If you can use my "lack of tactical prowess" as an argument against me, then you shouldn't get mad if the same argument is used against you in the same manner. What I'm saying is, the Lhotse is fine, you just can't use it, like any other ship. Just like the Bayonet is fine but I did something wrong which made me die.
Besides, you're the last person that should be calling someone out on flying mistakes and a lack of tactical prowess, since you cant do the first part of the former and lack the latter.:laugh:
' Wrote:Otherwise I think you just suck, that's why you think that starflea is weaker than Chimmy. See how stupid this sounds? Principal is exactly the same, just the technical diffrence is a lot smaller.
Or you could put it in plain English and say you're exaggerating because you had to eat your own point to say that tactics > Numbers in some scenarios where the guy who had numbers was actually competent and still didn't have his advantage. Sure you could argue his competence, but while he is better than you, wouldn't that reiterate to the fact that you obviously can't hack it regardless of your advantage?
