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The future of the barge?
Offline ElekTeK
08-15-2012, 12:03 PM,
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reduce the cargo to 10.000, make it a regular transport ship, with 80 impulse speed and 350 cruise.

And make it available for purchase again. With a proper price like 400-500 mills.
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Offline Psymple
08-15-2012, 12:08 PM,
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' Wrote:reduce the cargo to 10.000, make it a regular transport ship, with 80 impulse speed and 350 cruise.

And make it available for purchase again. With a proper price like 400-500 mills.

+10

' Wrote:And without they'll do aquilon and whales, just as profitable. This issue is larger then just the barge.

Not if you dont have the people.

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Offline Duvelske
08-15-2012, 12:15 PM,
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' Wrote:reduce the cargo to 10.000, make it a regular transport ship, with 80 impulse speed and 350 cruise.

And make it available for purchase again. With a proper price like 400-500 mills.

well then you solve it not. then only more barges will come less trains. and more jumping for cash. so it would inballance even more.

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Offline Jetro Willems
08-15-2012, 12:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-15-2012, 12:20 PM by Jetro Willems.)
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' Wrote:reduce the cargo to 10.000, make it a regular transport ship, with 80 impulse speed and 350 cruise.

And make it available for purchase again. With a proper price like 400-500 mills.

Meh, it will it make a usual 5ker-like ship. Everyone will use it. As devs said, trading system is balanced up to 5k ships, so they made the Barge slow/big/etc to prevent powertrading and disbalance in trading system.

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Offline ElekTeK
08-15-2012, 12:20 PM,
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Then add another ship like Tiny Barge let's name it, with the technical specs i just posted, and leave the original Barge as it is or rename it to Heavy Barge or something like that.

I don't own a Barge for the moment but i tried it in single player and it's really slow already.
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Offline Duvelske
08-15-2012, 12:24 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-15-2012, 12:26 PM by Duvelske.)
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best leaving it as it is. because atm current ones are pirated as hell. and gives the ones who like to normal fly with it at least still a good rp experience. because with the jumping even a 5k isnt ballanced. and the barge vs 5k depending on its cargo if you compare it. the barge is nerfed too much. But its good as it is. give some more maybe because its almost never been seen now. and ask the players who you give it too. to make an RP story with it.

for the ones who think yeah easy barge: Hell this isnt true. as i think they must set that you need to rp that thing for at least 100 hours. with no jumping at all. maybe 1 or 2 max. for getting you out of a stuck place. but not for a trade to been made. Also some good RP has to be done with it.

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Offline Jack_Henderson
08-18-2012, 11:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-18-2012, 11:13 PM by Jack_Henderson.)
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Quote:1) Do nothing.
2) Reduce its cargo capacity.
3) Reduce its cargo capacity and massively increase its armour.
4) Remove its cruise engine (jumping and very slow normal engines only)
5) Prohibit barges docking at structures that are too small (i.e. allow docking only at mooring points)
6) Prohibit barges docking at anything. This means that two people are needed to use a barge; a player driving a freighter or transport to load/unload the barge and the barge player.
7) Increasing its cargo capacity and reducing its armour.


1) Works. The Barge is not broken. Jumptrading is (I didn't jumptrade since the last update, though).
2) No, it is already not a lot, especially when you take the massive amount of pain into account that moving it causes.
3) No, the Barge would even be vulnerable with 4 times the armor. Bumping makes it useless, not lack of armor.
4) No. Ships drift! I had a Barge 190 k away. Without cruise this means half a day of flying.
5) Good, do it.
6) Positive: makes teamplay necessary
7) Fine with me, it dies anyway when attacked.

My opinion:

7, 6 + give it a cruise speed of 150 back.

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Offline Ipuvaepe
08-18-2012, 11:17 PM,
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' Wrote:reduce the cargo to 10.000, make it a regular transport ship, with 80 impulse speed and 350 cruise.

And make it available for purchase again. With a proper price like 400-500 mills.
Understand this: one-time cost balances only one-time power.

If this happened, it would actually be an even better jumptrading ship than anything ingame currently. 500m? That's one ore delivery with that thing. Hell, screw jumptrading just go solo with that much cargo.

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Offline ZTeeVeR
08-18-2012, 11:19 PM,
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So am i just beign by suggesting that we leave the barge as is, but remove the ability to jump with it?
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Offline Miranda
08-18-2012, 11:24 PM,
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' Wrote:So am i just beign by suggesting that we leave the barge as is, but remove the ability to jump with it?

Not sure if that's possible, or feasible without tons of coding

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