Samarran Raiders

[Reverend Del]

You've triggered cheat detection one too many times for us to be comfortable.

You're friendly to what should be the ultimate bad guy.

The Babylon system doesn't exist. Cayman and O-52 do. Both were blank systems before they were bought by the factions now inhabiting them. Both those factions have origins based in Starlancer as well. Their origin stories are derived from lore.

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Saint Del is considered a holy healer of diseases of children, but also as a protector of cattle.

[PRJKTLRD]

"You've triggered cheat detection one too many times for us to be comfortable."

Not our fault, we dont have cheaters. Blame your anti cheat lolmachine, I see cheatmessages alldays and its due to bad instalations/operative systems - happends to me many times.

Once happened that we had cheater, but neather we knew that he is.

I dont accept it, its not valid reason.

" 1. The Out of universe origins of your faction"

Have you guys red the damned RP Story on wiki? Clearly, you didnt.

Samarra is inhabited by ex Zoners from Liberty and Bretonia mainly.

Roots of Samarrans are from Libertorian/bretonian Zoners.

"You're friendly to what should be the ultimate bad guy."

You dont say that its ultimate bad guy? Never knew.

It's also decidion of both sides, K'Hara and (SR~

It's our thing if we will have good relations or not, every faction is free to work at it's will, without breaking breaking rules and Roleplay and keeping it RP-wise.



I dont understand, why you cant accept that? So much roleplay was done for even "neutrality" with them, that is what you want, fully RP groups?

edit:And I am pretty sure that Nomads would want servants who joined them with their will, thats what they seek for, more power. Why are they sending their agents then into Governments. - nevermind if they are ultimate badguy.

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<"From Darkness, lead me to Light. From Ignorance, to Truth. From Death, to Immortality.">

Jared Nomak ||  The rise of the Overlord || The Commune

[Rodent]

You've triggered cheat detection one too many times for us to be comfortable.

You're friendly to what should be the ultimate bad guy.

The Babylon system doesn't exist. Cayman and O-52 do. Both were blank systems before they were bought by the factions now inhabiting them. Both those factions have origins based in Starlancer as well. Their origin stories are derived from lore.

Bolded the part I have gripe with. That's really not a relevant reason. The Outcasts are neutral-friendly towards the Nomads. Gallia is ambivalent but not hostile. Cults supporting the nomads shouldn't be shot down in this manner.

[Alley]

You've triggered cheat detection one too many times for us to be comfortable.

You're friendly to what should be the ultimate bad guy.

The Babylon system doesn't exist. Cayman and O-52 do. Both were blank systems before they were bought by the factions now inhabiting them. Both those factions have origins based in Starlancer as well. Their origin stories are derived from lore.

-1: Makes it clearer for everyone that wondered what you meant and are not part of this faction

-2: How is that an issue? There has to be people who side with nomads for whatever reason, shall it be indoctrination/forced hybridisation. Making everything related to nomads an automatic NOPE NO OFFICAL 4 U looks like a weird move to restrict the opening of nomad roleplay to a wider audience, which us official nomads have been trying to do. If it's related to their lore or whatever I guess it would make more sense but for now it only looks like "NOMADS? NO"

-3: I'm not part of their faction and don't really know their lore, so uh.
Cayman is a system that was added with 4.86 afaik and already planned to be the RoS system, just like Virginia was a preplanned LN owned to be system. I don't remember Virginia being in the game previously to LN requesting a system. but okay I guess?


The only thing I really understand in this denial is the cheating bit from them (I guess it got proof'd). Everything else just looks weird.

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Alley was right.

[Altaris]

I agree with Alley on this one. Nomads were more than once at the edge of destruction. It would be logical for them to seek some alliance amongs the kind that nearly destroyed them.

As long as SR is not gonna ask for nom guns, i fully support this faction. Not as a main nomad allies humies though.

That place rightfully belongs to the Outcasts! Imma gunna eat your brainz, muhahah...

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Carnage itself flying within void...
Proud cardihead ever since 2008...
You all gonna eat cardi!

...also im a troll, so hate me.

[Valhalla Sr.]

Okay, so, don't really want to see my 500mils gone into open space like this, so imma go into this discussion

First, Samarran Raiders story:

CLICK HERE

Second, gonna answer all of Del's questions:

1.You've triggered cheat detection one too many times for us to be comfortable.

~When i was on the server i saw those "cheat detections" for a million times a day, so that is not it, sorry.

You're friendly to what should be the ultimate bad guy.


~ Even the ultimate Bad Guy needs allies. Problem solved


The Babylon system doesn't exist. Cayman and O-52 do. Both were blank systems before they were bought by the factions now inhabiting them. Both those factions have origins based in Starlancer as well. Their origin stories are derived from lore.

~ Already explained by other posts

1. The Out of universe origins of your faction

~ Not at all, read the (SR~ page again please.

2. The link to the ultimate big bad of Freelancer, the Nomads

~ Answered up, look ^_^

3. Administration issues which have cropped up too frequently for us to ignore.

For the 3rd he probably meant sanctions.

~ I'm also sure this is it. Haven't the other factions received at least "some" sanctions? Cuz i'm sure they have....

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[Switchback]

I believe its the fact that the multiple cheat messages from SR) (Or whatever the tag is) coupled with the sanctions makes it seem suspicious enough to stop a faction from becoming official. Call it reasonable doubt, or whatever.

Regarding the sanctions, yes, official factions have had sanctions, but I believe (at least from my viewpoint) that its the timing of the sanctions with regards to the Official Faction request.

Edit: Most (If not all) factions with guard systems where official before asking for a system to be created for them. RoS for example, they only just got their system with 4.86.

Edit 2: Looked at the wiki page.
"Location Unknown, Babylon Sector"
Thats not sirius sector.
"liquor fermented only on Samarra"
That sounds powergame-ish. Creating objects to benifit your RP...Thats like when the VR said we "designed special power cores" for the capitalships. Just doesn't work.

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Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.

[Valhalla Sr.]

For the 3rd he probably meant sanctions.

Also I fail to see how being linked to the nomads is an argument to deny officialty, it's in fact, something that should be welcomed considering how slim the nomad related playerbase is. If the third point impacted on the second point it would make more sense I guess, I'm not in that faction though so I don't really know.

If it ended up being about how they could abuse nomad guns, rest assured the dev team decided to nerf nomad guns enough to make most of them worthless.

Hmm, the last sanction the Raiders had was my sanction, and it was i think OORP chat in Omicron Delta (big RP event with Nomads ^_^), and it was one line of OORP... And all in all, i think 3 or 4 sanctions were put on the SR chars.

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[HuggieSunrise]

You've triggered cheat detection one too many times for us to be comfortable.

You're friendly to what should be the ultimate bad guy.

The Babylon system doesn't exist. Cayman and O-52 do. Both were blank systems before they were bought by the factions now inhabiting them. Both those factions have origins based in Starlancer as well. Their origin stories are derived from lore.

Issues 1 and 3 can be investigated and worked with and worked out with a little hands on...

The whole absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence where there's smoke there's fire Bullcock shouldn't fly in any factual minded consideration. This is a god damn game for Christ sake if there's sanctions or any evidence of wrong doing PRODUCE IT. if you think their a bunch of cheaters find out. otherwise this nebulous cause for denial is transparent to all of us and benith all of you.

Having seen ADMINS/Traders/bad installs/corrupt installs set this cheat detection off should prove a bit how oversensitive it is anyway.

As for this "Ultimate bad guy" crap. (RANT ON) Were not Fix this demand it be fixed and that will hold weight. you yourself have said we've been Nerfed and marginalized into oblivion. We know we play the damn things.

So what does that leave a "supposedly" technologically advanced alien faction with equipment that's only difference to the human tech is -THE COLOR PINK- well obviously friends allies and rp with other groups that are on a level of dependence that have never been before.

Trust me I have spent nearly the whole year writing and conducting rp filling in the plot holes created by previous years and versions of this mod to know the nomads prefer isolation but for some reason over the past 20 inrp years they have gotten progressively more suck for them. Blame whoever you think is appropriate.

I HAVE SENT MULTIPLE QUERY'S TO CANNON THE ADMIN TEAM AND THE DEVS TO FIX THIS. query's / questions.. pleadings for help thats right pleadings.. I want to be a team player here but only if the game makes sense and i get silence and nothing for my trouble like so many others.

I haven't DEMANDED a thing in this regard. I have pleaded.. SUCKED up to Cried out for SOME FEEDBACK to what you guys want us to be. the response youve (del and only del so far) given us? be nomads.. WELL FFS WHAT THE HECK DO YOU THINK WEVE BEEN TRYING TO DO? WE DONT EVEN HAVE CLOAKS? YOU IGNORED "LORE" ON THAT CRAP! DO WE HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ALL YEAR? NOPE!

So you know where this is leading? Active groups of good players who fly and antogonise but arent worked with or helped have no incentive to be team players or work with you at all because frankly.. if your not going to work with THEM WHO THE HELL ELSE has any damn hope? REALLY? WHAT IS LEFT?

To leave? last night i saw 30 people on the server at the dead of night. thats the lowest ive seen in some time im not doom and glooming you Im just telling you whats WRONG here. The fact they arent leaving must mean thier having fun and if its not on your terms then what incentive dot hey have to care. For gods sake this is your damn garden. tend to it.

try WORKING WITH interested and active players instead of Blocking and slapping a No sticker on shit. WORK WITH not AGAINST your own community.

FOR A TRY. Now if we dont "get it" i already said that probably due to the viel of silence you all adopt. if there are "problems" out of view of this community wouldent it be in everyone interes to just deal with them now. and let everyone know were they truly stand?





As for a point on on topicness. Milos, the founder of this group worked to keep it together. I dont like every one of his raiders. But i love milos because the dude is more or less fair. balanced. has been a dependable ally for us int he past and continues to be there. What more could a faction need out of an ally?


and finally. If anything related to my player faction ruins the chance for a group of active and willing players to get a group together and play and keep the heart of this server beating longer.. to keep things interesting longer i would rather disband khara now.

So do MAKE CLEAR your sentiments as far as inter faction rp/officalness. Some folks might get the wrong or right ideas from your gleamings.

Dont dance around the point. be truthful have integrity and just say it.

[Omicron]

I think it should be left to Nomads who they want to ally themselves with, not admins.

As for Cayman, it was role play of RoS (which existed way before said system was added to the mod) seeking new home after being exiled from Malta, their former homeworld. Omega 52? I have insufficient knowledge to speak about it.

While there were momenths I disagreed with how some matters in SR were handled, I consider those are quite dull points to shoot them down like that.

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