SCRA pretty story and ideology

[Havok]

Also, our ZoI is pretty much EVERYWHERE.

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[Kaze]

As the Reavers. But they are a no-RP bunch.

Pft.

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[08:11 PM] Dusty Lens said: Well in that case. NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE & #SAVAGE & #STORIES

[Alley]

Nomands going to Bretonia from far Omicrons to fight in human war. This is not interesting.

SECRET LEVEL UNLOCKED!!!!!

You have unlocked the ignorance level.
This started as a tears thread about SCRA shooting GRN, now we're back on the topic of nomads.

FYI the nomad war is not limited to the omicrons and never was. There's a lair in Chester and considering the K'Hara| infiltrated the Gallic Royalty it's not looking any better. This is why K'Hara| will help GRN and shoot BAF, and the nomad rebels will shoot GRN and help BAF.

K'Hara| is inactive and that's another concern, perhaps you want to complain about this now?

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[Anaximander]

The above quote is the crux of what you're saying. But if that were true, then why did Stalin side with the US and Britain against Hitler? Because Hitler was the greater threat. Essentially it's more or less the same thing here.

sry but you dont seem to know your history very well. it wasnt at all that simple. stalin signed a non-aggression pact with hitler, while being very aware of the ideological threat fascism posed to communism - both thrive on the same group (the worker) and they cannot co-exist in their true, ideological form within the same society. then hitler started infringing on russian territory before finally launching an attack on russia. at that point stalin and russia was part of the allied powers, not because they necessairly saw Hitler as "the bigger threat", but because they were defending their country from a very real physical threat as well as an ideological threat.

SCRA arent defending their country, they are supporting one of the monarchical houses that are in closest proximity to their home. It's a different scenario altogether. true you can say they are defending their system "by proxy" by fighting in Leeds, but from an ideological stance whats the difference between being threatened by one heinous tyrant (the queen of bretland) and another (the king of gallia)?

its also very true that the biggest direct evil form of rule in marxist/communist ideology is in fact monarchies. 'historical materialism' and all that, the 'mode of production' under monarchy was/is direct slavery (and that is bad), according to Marx' materialist reading of Hegel's idealistic concept of history.

naturally the SCRA can have adopted a watered-down ideology and forgot all about the sociological underpinnings, and be "woodstock-commies"/"rebels without a cause" sure, but it would be kinda cool if they adapted an intellectual/ideological approach concerned with uniting workers across the houses.

p.s. why are so many of you being dicks in this thread by the way?

p.p.s. i dont mind scra pewing grn, i just think scra should be pewing all red they see. they would have good reason to.

[Manticore]

The above quote is the crux of what you're saying. But if that were true, then why did Stalin side with the US and Britain against Hitler? Because Hitler was the greater threat. Essentially it's more or less the same thing here.

sry but you dont seem to know your history very well. it wasnt at all that simple. stalin signed a non-aggression pact with hitler, while being very aware of the ideological threat fascism posed to communism - both thrive on the same group (the worker) and they cannot co-exist in their true, ideological form within the same society. then hitler started infringing on russian territory before finally launching an attack on russia. at that point stalin and russia was part of the allied powers, not because they necessairly saw Hitler as "the bigger threat", but because they were defending their country.

SCRA arent defending their country, they are supporting one of the monarchical houses that are in closest proximity to their home. It's a different scenario altogether.

its also very true that the biggest direct evil form of rule in marxist/communist ideology is in fact monarchies. 'historical materialism' and all that, the 'mode of production' under monarchy was/is direct slavery (and that is bad), according to Marx' materialist reading of Hegel's idealistic concept of history.

naturally the SCRA can have adopted a watered-down ideology and forgot all about the sociological underpinnings, and be "woodstock-commies"/"rebels without a cause" sure, but it would be kinda cool if they adapted an intellectual/ideological approach concerned with uniting workers across the houses.

p.s. why are so many of you being dicks in this thread by the way?

My point with that example was to point out that real-life communists would sometimes play the political game when it benefited them. Gallia is a potential threat to invade SCRA territory down the line anyways. Not a perfect example, but you misinterpreted my point.

Bretonia isn't a monarchy the same way Gallia is, by the way. It's a republic in reality.

They're still pursuing their eventual goals, but obviously with such a big goal you don't accomplish it by punching every hornet's nest you don't particularly like right off the bat. The SCRA is taking things one at a time, which is smart.

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[Sarawr!?]

Hi Reptile, So I think that, probably, possibly, somewhere in your brain, might just be a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, as to why my faction wants inRP, to fight Gallia instead of Bretonia.

The SCRA is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT in ANY way allied with Bretonia, at all. We have a Neutrality/Non Aggression Pact with them (If you'd like a link to the forum RP, I can provide you one), because if they fall to Gallia, that will give Gallia a straight shot into the Omegas, to our home system, and if that were to happen the Coalition would be completely and totally screwed, the GRN would overrun Omega 52, crush the Revolutionary Army, and topple the Coalition government in very short order.

As you might guess, that would be BAD for us, this is called grand strategy, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, after all.

Coalition helps Bretonia in token amounts in order to improve their public image among Bretonian Citizens, in effect, the Coalition's ranks might grow.

Coalition helps Bretonia by fighting Gallics off, once the Gallics are gone and the Bretonian fleet has taken the brunt of the Gallic offensive, the Coalition would be free to take advantage of such a situation.

But what's this about Nomads and the SCRA working together in Leeds? I'm pretty sure you need to rethink that statement.

the SCRA| presence in Leeds today involved myself, in an Insurgent VHF, and Ndk in a Revolution bomber, we were engaged in fighting Gallics for all of maybe ten minutes before we LEFT, to go to Magellan for RP, we didn't even kill anything.

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[Reptile]

Hi Reptile, So I think that, probably, possibly, somewhere in your brain, might just be a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, as to why my faction wants inRP, to fight Gallia instead of Bretonia.

The SCRA is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT in ANY way allied with Bretonia, at all. We have a Neutrality/Non Aggression Pact with them (If you'd like a link to the forum RP, I can provide you one), because if they fall to Gallia, that will give Gallia a straight shot into the Omegas, to our home system, and if that were to happen the Coalition would be completely and totally screwed, the GRN would overrun Omega 52, crush the Revolutionary Army, and topple the Coalition government in very short order.

As you might guess, that would be BAD for us, this is called grand strategy, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, after all.

Coalition helps Bretonia in token amounts in order to improve their public image among Bretonian Citizens, in effect, the Coalition's ranks might grow.

Coalition helps Bretonia by fighting Gallics off, once the Gallics are gone and the Bretonian fleet has taken the brunt of the Gallic offensive, the Coalition would be free to take advantage of such a situation.

But what's this about Nomads and the SCRA working together in Leeds? I'm pretty sure you need to rethink that statement.

the SCRA| presence in Leeds today involved myself, in an Insurgent VHF, and Ndk in a Revolution bomber, we were engaged in fighting Gallics for all of maybe ten minutes before we LEFT, to go to Magellan for RP, we didn't even kill anything.

GRN dont care about little SCRA,like dont care about OC near.
Anyway,your real front is in omega 5,where is Corsair fleet,this is much bigger problem for you.Dont you think so?

About ZOI of SCRA.Yes,you can fly everywhere.You have allies all around a sirius and they are giving you fuel for free.You have unlimited human resourse in SCRA,you have business all over the sirius.And this is all LOL,nothing less,nothing more from the RP.
For me now,SCRA - this is not good RP faction.For me - this is not bigger than newbie indie faction, which going pew everyone with some slogans about workers.
So dying for monarchy - veery interesting Revolution story from workers of not-Bretonian system.

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[Havok]

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[Alley]

p.s. why are so many of you being dicks in this thread by the way?

There's a way to politely show points, and there's the other one that involves doing it in a douchebag manner.

The first post is the pinnacle of the second, with a magnificent start that essentially says "hi, you're all a bunch of morons, listen to me."

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Alley was right.

[Omicron]

this is not good RP faction.For me - this is not bigger than newbie indie faction, which going pew everyone

Hypocrite very much? You call yourself role player right?

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