SCRA pretty story and ideology

[Alley]

This roleplay kinda :" I have KNF bomber,lets think about motivation how i can kill LWB in Rheinland? Why? Only because they are future problem for Kusary if Rheinlannd will fall! They will allied with Farmer Allians and will kill us all!"
Why i cant kill LWB? They are pirates,lets shot them. pew pew.

LWB is a small farmer movement, not a damn house as big as 2,5 sirian houses steamrolling everything in it's path. Get some fact straights.

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Alley was right.

[Durandal]

Let me put this in as simple terms as I possibly can. I did not see Soviet Russia and America shooting each other during World War two. Common enemy, greater threat, and so on and so forth. They went right back to being hostile towards each other as soon as Nazi Germany was GG'd.

Both the Coalition and Bretonia are far weaker than Gallia. They need to work together for now. Not doing so is simply stupid.

[Reptile]

GRN dont care about little SCRA,like dont care about OC near.
Anyway,your real front is in omega 5,where is Corsair fleet,this is much bigger problem for you.Dont you think so?

Part of the reason for our NAP with the Bretonians was the fact that the Corsairs are a threat to both of us, and yes, having Bretonia out of our way will free up more of our forces to fight Corsairs.

About ZOI of SCRA.Yes,you can fly everywhere.You have allies all around a sirius and they are giving you fuel for free.You have unlimited human resourse in SCRA,you have business all over the sirius.And this is all LOL,nothing less,nothing more from the RP.

Nobody has that attitude about our ZOI except for you, so it seems. We certainly don't have allies all over, and what's this about businesses all over? and unlimited human resources? and free fuel? Have you even bothered reading ANYTHING about the SCRA at all?

For me now,SCRA - this is not good RP faction.For me - this is not bigger than newbie indie faction, which going pew everyone with some slogans about workers.

Who are you to decide whose RP is 'good', and whose is not? are you a MIGHTY RP GOD?!

In short, haters gonna hate.

So dying for monarchy - veery interesting Revolution story from workers of not-Bretonian system.

We're not dying for a Monarchy, in effect, we're dying to protect the -civilians- of Bretonia, sway some of them to our cause, and ultimately to try and stop the Gallics from pushing into Omegas.

Fuel - by your RP,you have no carriers or BSs to move your fighters to far system for fight.
Allies - yes,nobody helping you by the RP.So what are you doing by the story in Leeds on fighters\bombers? By the game you have not enough fuel ( i mean cargohold) to fly max 2 systems by the game > then you need to full up you > but have no place for it...And you have no ships\bases on your way to supply you with fuel. I can understand Hessians can help you,but in Bretonia...

Next.Protecting civilians? Are mission GRN to kill all civilians? No.their mission to broke government of Bretonia and Liberty.They dont care about civilians,like you dont care about workers of Bretonia which not have social protection from Bretonia government.
You can be communist,but this is calling not revolutionary,this is calling opportunistic-commumistic movement. You dont care about workers,you cares about your status in houses.

Ans P.S.you not dying in fights? You going home safe? always? What can say Coalition government when their pilots dying in war between 2 monarchies?
i think - nothing.

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Wrote:
~Please leave this community, please. You'd be doing everyone a favour.
~Nikita. Please. Go play sims.
~Nikita, stop acting like that... you are just embarrassing yourself.
~Your way to win may be within rules, but you still break Rule 0.0 be excellent to eachother.
~but please just keep it to the Russian Discord chats and off the forums. We're tired of reading it.
then you will see 70 players online in this way. -me
2012©
RNC|MND-Gepard

[Anaximander]

alright but wouldnt you say the queen would also be in line to jump your system, her being an oppressive tyrant and all? i would expect the brets to have more detailed knowledge on your location than the gallics, the brets being a long-time neighbour and all.

thing is communism as ideology is not compromising. at all. all other forms or rule are perceived as enthrallment and the key element for communist societies is solidarity - solidarity with workers everywhere, thats the main priority, the kit that glues societies together. in the light of that, the SCRA would be in bed with the devil and be betraying all their ideals (as well as the poor workers of bretonia) by fraternizing with this horrible imperialistic foreign power. communism doesnt offer middle-ground, not only on an ideological level, but also on a very real level - history has shown us that too.

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on the other hand its fair enough, its a computer game and SCRA should have a slice of both the main story line and the pews. the game suffers from lack of activity in most systems, which i could imagine is a problem for factions like the SCRA.

i still remember the days where you would log and raid everything from the omegas to omicron alpha, and thats what i would like to see. an all-out angry coalitions bent on setting the working class free anywhere in sirius and executing anyone who oppose the effort (that includes corporate pilots unwilling to dump all their cargo).

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i also want to add that the GRN are fighting a really wide assortment of ships, and the GRN cap line isnt exactly stellar especially against smaller more agile ships. with everybody so keen on ganging up on the bret side, you run the risk of having no gallics to shoot at simply because people will be discouraged* - its something devs/admins/storyline-bosses should think about. and to be honest i think it would make sense both in-rp and balance-wise for SCRA to stay classy and stay out.


* although personally i like the srs bsns approach on the Leeds battlefront, its like taking the training wheels from liberty off. its just a tad bit too muddled with strange alliances and tech combos (it seems council shut down their shipyards and outsourced it to the Colonials ). Oh and that damn nomad makes me LOL everytime I see it, sorry. If you imagined all those ships and strange alliances were between unofficials and indies, I'm pretty sure you would laugh a bit at it too...


p.s. also dont put so much emphasis on form over content on the forum. there's language differences and some things you would say in one way in your native tongue, but it comes off hostile or offensive in another language where your vocabulary is much more limited. its unavoidable that those who command English to a level where they can both convey their thoughts and opinions accurately as well as be witty hold much more power on the forum than those who don't. see this thread and how it gets derailed - a witty skilled native English-speaking person wouldnt be the subject of this kind of daftness, or would at least be better equipped to repel the idiocy/spam. try to read the meaning behind posts and take it for what it is, rather than just take offense and nit-pick over tone, grammar and whatnot. we're a multicultural community, we should celebrate that.

[Alley]

By the game you have not enough fuel ( i mean cargohold) to fly max 2 systems by the game > then you need to full up you > but have no place for it...And you have no ships\bases on your way to supply you with fuel. I can understand Hessians can help you,but in Bretonia...

That's why RNC can magically go from NB/Hamburg/ to Magellan, stage attacks from there to Liberty and uh.
This thread sucks, your facts sucks.

You're complaining about what you do yourself.
bye

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Alley was right.

[Reptile]

Let me put this in as simple terms as I possibly can. I did not see Soviet Russia and America shooting each other during World War two. Common enemy, greater threat, and so on and so forth. They went right back to being hostile towards each other as soon as Nazi Germany was GG'd.

Both the Coalition and Bretonia are far weaker than Gallia. They need to work together for now. Not doing so is simply stupid.

Coalition is not target of GRN,and GRN dont care about coalition.
So please,do not mix 2 differend stories.

Coalition is not under attack from GRN and will not be.
This is situation,we can imagine,that USSR is under attack from Germany,but in fact they going to pew China (they are not was communistic in WW2).
Coalition is under Corsair attack,but they going to pew GRN,which is dont care about poor SCRA.

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Wrote:
~Please leave this community, please. You'd be doing everyone a favour.
~Nikita. Please. Go play sims.
~Nikita, stop acting like that... you are just embarrassing yourself.
~Your way to win may be within rules, but you still break Rule 0.0 be excellent to eachother.
~but please just keep it to the Russian Discord chats and off the forums. We're tired of reading it.
then you will see 70 players online in this way. -me
2012©
RNC|MND-Gepard

[Manticore]

alright but wouldnt you say the queen would also be in line to jump your system, her being an oppressive tyrant and all?

King Charles is an oppressive tyrant. Queen Carina has power roughly equal to the President of Liberty.

See: http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Bretonia#Gov...d_politics

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[Timbuktu]

It takes quite some guts to complain about something you've been doing yourself for months.

I think the main point was not the pew pew but about a particular one of the oorp alliances (BAF and SCRA) we see throughout Sirius. Amid all the Nomad-Corsiar-SCRA alliances vs a bunch of feather-wearing pirate fighters, LR-HF-XENO-LN alliances vs... other LN (indies), Nomad-Wilde-Order alliances vs.... other Order (indies), Corsair-BHG-Core-Outcast alliance vs Zoners, I'm also a bit surprised he still thinks this particular one is worth the energy to point at.
Having been a victim of an infamous BHG-Order Alliance yourself, when a mischivous Order VHF had the audacity to CD your Marduk so some BHG Makos could catch and kill you, I am surprised you don't come rushing to his support.

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King Charles is an oppressive tyrant. Queen Carina has power roughly equal to the President of Liberty.

I think the main issue he is trying to raise is that SCRA didn't seem to think Queen Carina and the President of Liberty had any potential for being good comrades before there were some GRN players that they didnt particularly like.

[Sarawr!?]

Let me put this in as simple terms as I possibly can. I did not see Soviet Russia and America shooting each other during World War two. Common enemy, greater threat, and so on and so forth. They went right back to being hostile towards each other as soon as Nazi Germany was GG'd.

Both the Coalition and Bretonia are far weaker than Gallia. They need to work together for now. Not doing so is simply stupid.

Coalition is not target of GRN,and GRN dont care about coalition.
So please,do not mix 2 differend stories.

Coalition is not under attack from GRN and will not be.

Coalition is under Corsair attack,but they going to pew GRN,which is dont care about poor SCRA.

Except, Reptile, the GRN| is on a mission to pretty much conquer Sirius and subject it to Gallic rule, and if you pay attention to what's actually going on in the storyline of Gallia (Nomad infestation of the King and GRN| leadership and things like that, then you'd know, if the GRN| were to actually take over Sirius, there WOULD DEFINITELY be atrocities committed, and there are certainly rumors existing inRP that make people think that way, which of course, makes Gallia sound far, far worse, to the Coalition, than Bretonia.

Also, look at what the GRN did the the Colonial Republic when they moved into the Taus, Do you think that the SCRA would want to risk allowing that to happen to them as well?

By fighting Gallics in Bretonia, and ceasing hostilities against Bretonia (FOR NOW), the SCRA is in fact, defending it's own 'National interests'.

LASTLY: Something that NONE OF YOU SEEM TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO, is the fact that past relations =/= now. The Coalition recently underwent a change in Leadership, Premier Katz was briefly replaced by Commandante Rhade who was shortly thereafter eliminated by Katya Vaschenko (my character).

With new leadership comes the possibility for changes to occur, or is that inaccurate? Are my character's goals as leader of the Coalition supposed to be exactly the same as the goals of old leader Premier Alvin Katz or Commandant Aloysius Rhade? Am I not entitled to play my character's personality out, to see what she might do as leader, to see what happens?

See, the beauty of RP is that, I could attempt to make all sorts of diplomatic changes if I felt the need to do so, but that doesn't mean that other factions are going to agree and come around, it doesn't mean that all our enemies will suddenly be our friends, or all our friends will become enemies, that's the beauty of RP, trying something and seeing how it ends up.

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[Omicron]

And I was wondering when our local "master of lore and alliances" Timbuktu would show up...

Nomad-Wilde-Order vs Order? Not even a screenshot to prove it.

Corsair-BHG-Core-Outcast vs Zoners? As far as I remember, Outcasts were helping Zoners on this one.

Order-BHG alliance? Never happened, all you would see is temporary truce formed to counter something else but *never* alliance. Not even official cease fire happened yet.

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