(03-04-2013, 11:43 AM)danny081 Wrote: i have camera evidence of the Torpedo's using a set message with not nearly enough RP and then firing Nova's at a station to kill myself and the Supreme Judge.
If you would forward that to me, that would be great.
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People only complain when they get ganked, though not when they go ganking themselves. I guess they simply do not like the prospect of losing. Though honestly, I see no issues with 'ganking'. If you got the numbers, use them. Quantity is a sort of quality, as someone once said. If people want fair and boringly even fights, get an event going, with predetermined participants.
You guys might wanna be careful with metagaming though. Even if people do it, they tend not to reveal themselves doing just that, and certainly not using it as inRP information. Just a heads up.
The GMG will consider the Judges as unwelcome in their space, and have banned from their systems accordingly. You may consider them more or less hostile towards the Judges, and you may or may no want to change your own diplomacy respectively.
Edit: Bah, ninja'd. Didn't read the previous page.
Also, something I wanted to ask long ago - where do you guys get all that manpower? Don't tell me most of the Disco newcomers from Pennsylvania are being turned into Judges x.x
(03-06-2013, 03:07 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: It looks like you've taken to allying with Hessians to invade attack Rheinland ships in Rheinland space. Since you were told that continuing to shoot at Rheinland ships will be an act of war, it looks like your claims that you want to remain neutral with Rheinland is inaccurate.
Since I'm feeling nice, I'll give you one chance to get out of this without permanently ending up as target of opportunity for all ships flying under the MND, as opposed to the couple sporadic ones that have already considered your acts of hostility against Rheinland as a reason to declare you a hostile. Your faction information does, after all, say that you're friendly to lawful factions and that you're a lawful aligned faction yourself - something that is incompatible with working with pirate factions like the [RHA] and the [RF] to shoot at lawful Rheinland ships.
Expect a comm thread post from me soon. Know that if you don't handle it correctly, that you'll have to move Rheinland from the list of Lawful factions that you say is "friendly" and add it to the list of factions that is very unhappy with your involvement in shooting Lawful ships in conjunction with pirate factions.
Just to reiterate from previous posts in this thread.
We have not declared war or have any intentions of declaring war on Rhienland Navy. We have had a problem with a couple of your ships, the main antagonist being Gepard. He has on a few occasions attacked Judges ships and even attacked/killed 2 Judges that came down as a peace envoy to RP a peaceful solution. Since then the Judges have declared him Rogue and have stated that we will hunt him. If in the mean time other RNC ships attack us we will defend ourselves (which is our right).
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Very true, but only if the context of the picture is known and not if the picture doesn't show what transpired before and after the event.
The Judges are trying to teach Gepard a lesson (if he can learn one), at the minute we are leaving him alone to see what he does next. It seems that we are being accused of siding with the Hessians, if we are, I know nothing about it. That the Judges and the Hessians were present at the same time RNC was doesn't mean that we are allied/siding with them. In the same way when RNC attacks Liberty and are met by LN Forces and LR or HF turns up to kill the RNC. They are in no way allied and inRP kill each other on sight regularly!
So the old adage of 'The enemy of my enemy must be my friend' is not and never will be totally true. It is only true for the time that both sides are achieving what they require out of the understanding at the time.
'I would like to be half as clever as some people like to believe they are' Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person
Also, something I wanted to ask long ago - where do you guys get all that manpower? Don't tell me most of the Disco newcomers from Pennsylvania are being turned into Judges x.x
Read previous posts, within this thread, and you should be enlightened!
Sometimes it would be useful, if, when reading something that it was inwardly digested at the same time so that an understanding of what has been written can be achieved!
In other words read the whole passage, try to understand what is written and try not to assume you know what was written. Then maybe an understanding of what was written will be yours.
We are all guilty of it! Some are more prone to having this problem than others.
'I would like to be half as clever as some people like to believe they are' Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person
You guys might wanna be careful with metagaming though. Even if people do it, they tend not to reveal themselves doing just that, and certainly not using it as inRP information. Just a heads up.
I wholeheartedly agree on this comment. I can only apologise for this. But for a side note, should you condemn a whole group of people for 1 person's mistake? We all known that metagaming goes on just some are better at it than others and know how to get away with it.
Quote:The GMG will consider the Judges as unwelcome in their space, and have banned from their systems accordingly. You may consider them more or less hostile towards the Judges, and you may or may no want to change your own diplomacy respectively.
GMG may have banned us from their space and maybe be hostile to us but maybe we respect their decision and feel no hostility to them. Only time will tell want happens with GMG.
'I would like to be half as clever as some people like to believe they are' Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person
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Might want to fix that quote there. You're currently claiming that Asbestos said he was guilty of the metagaming Logan did.
Thanks for that, my mistake. Teach me not to preview what I have posted!
Quote:And yes, in a sense, the whole group can be blamed if said "1 person" is also the group's leader.
I disagree. It is like saying I condemn a whole country for what their Leader has said/done. Our input wasn't asked before he posted and therefore the mistake is his and his alone.
'I would like to be half as clever as some people like to believe they are' Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person
From a player perspective, I appreciate the distinction made between allying and merely shooting at a mutual target. However, from a character perspective, I've been given evidence of Rheinland ships being fired upon by a group of hessian and judge ships that appear to be working together - and with the admission that the judges are hunting for a Rheinland ship on behalf of the IC. There's also the matter of evidence showing the judges working with Liberty naval ships in Texas during a border skirmish. Rp wise, what reason would I have to believe that the judges AREN'T hostile to Rheinland? Keep in mind, as a player, I know that you gents are having a little squabble with gepard, and I'd rather not get involved, but inrp, you're firing on Rheinland ships for a hostile corporation, while appearing to be working alongside Liberty navy and Hessian ships.
I'd like to give you a chance at remaining true to your faction lore - but if you don't take the opportunity, I won't lose any sleep over letting the rp that has taken place continue to the logical conclusion. Who knows, maybe the turn of events will lead to fun and more opportunities for all involved?
(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)EisenSeele Wrote: From a player perspective, I appreciate the distinction made between allying and merely shooting at a mutual target. However, from a character perspective, I've been given evidence of Rheinland ships being fired upon by a group of hessian and judge ships that appear to be working together - and with the admission that the judges are hunting for a Rheinland ship on behalf of the IC. There's also the matter of evidence showing the judges working with Liberty naval ships in Texas during a border skirmish. Rp wise, what reason would I have to believe that the judges AREN'T hostile to Rheinland? Keep in mind, as a player, I know that you gents are having a little squabble with gepard, and I'd rather not get involved, but inrp, you're firing on Rheinland ships for a hostile corporation, while appearing to be working alongside Liberty navy and Hessian ships.
I'd like to give you a chance at remaining true to your faction lore - but if you don't take the opportunity, I won't lose any sleep over letting the rp that has taken place continue to the logical conclusion. Who knows, maybe the turn of events will lead to fun and more opportunities for all involved?
I have no problem with the inRP aspect of it. I was answering the ooRP aspect due to your post in this Thread. The RP aspect will go down whatever road it follows. I have seen the SS that Gepard has posted and I know as well as you, probably, that they were carefully chosen. All respect for Reptile playing a good PR game. Like I said we are leaving Gepard alone, at least for now, to see what steps, if any, he takes.
We are conscious that certain people will try and 'arrange' certain situations and wait for any mistake that are made so that they can 'pounce' on us. But, hey, it is the way of the world.
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