Admin Notice: Updates - 04 Mar 2013

[fencore]

ok, thats similar to what can already be happening, but the old rule we could query a report if we suspect it was same player and if it is then he gets slapped wrist

now, we cant do that, the new rule is about the character that got killed, not a returning player to get his revenge

Nothing at all has changed here, I don't understand where the confusion is coming from. We expect players to still report suspected re-engaging, and the team will still check to make sure that's the case. Identifying re-engaging is still just as obscure as it always was. Saying that you're not able to report this anymore due to the rule change is completely unfounded.

If anything, what we've done is taken out the guesswork of trying to figure out who the person who killed you was if they decide to switch characters.

Also, if Player A kills Player B, Player B can only return to the system he was killed in if Player A logs out. If, for example, LSF-A kills Pirate-B in Colorado, then LSF-A goes to New York. That does not give Pirate-B leeway to return to Colorado and harass whoever. He can't do that until LSF-A logs out.

The only thing different is that now players who were killed may return to the system they were killed in if the player who killed them logs out.

Those of you worried about significant changes, read the first post. Don't skim it, read it. Read it over and over again until you understand it. Don't add in assumptions or connect the dots in your own way.

The only changes - the ONLY changes - to the rule set is as follows:

1. PvP Death lasts 2 hours instead of 4
   
2. If the player or group of players who killed you leaves the game then you can go back to the system you were killed in. (Not area, not sector, not system, not region. The game. He/they log(s) out.)

Thyrzul, your characters have to be identifiable in game. My "X player couldn't have known" example was just an example showing some of the thought process behind the change, and how things will generally be handled.

[indy.miner1]

after re-reading it i kinda see it different now

somehow i read it as "if a character was killed then they could come back within 2 hours on a different character"

dunno where i got from

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[TLI-Inferno]

Lowering the limit from 4 hours to 2 hours was great. But the rest shouldn't have been changed. Now, when you, as a group, kill pirates, they're free to attack anyone who didn't get a blue message on them.

It should have stayed as before -- Can't enter the system (but for the new 2-hour limit, not 4-hour), unless granted permission by the person that killed you. I grant people permission very often when it is appropriate, even if they don't ask, I'll just send them a PM letting them know I'll let them come back, after I myself have left the system instead.

I'm curious about the surprise, though.

[Veygaar]

Now, when you, as a group, kill pirates, they're free to attack anyone who didn't get a blue message on them.

No.... they.... can't. Unless you log off the game.

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[jammi]

Now, when you, as a group, kill pirates, they're free to attack anyone who didn't get a blue message on them.

No.... they.... can't. Unless you log off the game.

Pretty much.

If A is fighting B, C and D and one manages to kill him - attacking any of those three would be re-engaging, even if it was C who got the blue message. If all three log off, feel free to go back and cause havoc.

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[Ursus]

No.... they.... can't. Unless you log off the game ship.

As I read it

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[Hone]

I dont understyand how people got so instantly confused into thinking that if the guy who died switched char, he could attack again, rather than the truth, that if the guy who killed switched char, he could BE attacked again. Anyway this all sounds good, although I forsee people arguing about what constitutes a simillar name, and claiming people cant attack them, lying, ect.

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[Veygaar]

No.... they.... can't. Unless you log off the game ship.

As I read it

Correct. I meant the same, but yours makes it clearer.


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ALSO: The whole "4 Hour PvP Rule" is still being stated periodically in game in that orange colored chat. Maybe you could update it when you fine gentlemen have time

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[fencore]

Ooh, yes, thank you for the reminder. That'd completely slipped my brain.

[Veygaar]

Ooh, yes, thank you for the reminder. That'd completely slipped my brain.

No problem Moderator Veygaar here to save the day!

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