(03-13-2013, 07:33 PM)Markus_Janus Wrote: I believe we can all agree that the only problem with that base is that it is located right outside planet New Tokyo.
Somehow all of these events may be associated with Kusari defeat in the war and trying to strengthen the position of the government support for criminal organizations, as the population and the some Navy did not support surrender.
So to say "agony of the past".
Hogosha support is likely to lead to the popularity of Blood Dargons, traditions which exclude the surrender and corruption of goverment that led to the Hogosha legalization.
It all depends on the history of the war with Gallia and Kusari Exiles destiny.
Very true.
This could be taken a number of ways and it is always fun to explore them.
Even if you don't agree with how it started, it can still be fun.
(03-05-2013, 02:21 AM)ryoken Wrote: So if for example a Kusari Navy IDd BS was firing on a Hogosha base for example, and another Kusari Navy ship fires on the BS. Is that a sanctionable offence?
Not going to weigh in on the question, just the topic.
The base in question your ship was shooting at was and is a legal and registered base in Kusari and owned by a faction that the mod lore considers to be lawful.
Your KNF BS shooting at it would be the one behaving OORPly.
Now, thing is...I've seen you on various ships shooting at the base...and when it wasn't shooting at you, you shot at it to force the base to shoot your ship..then complained about it shooting you.
One thing you may not have noticed, or more likely you didn't care about, is that the base was made KNF IFF on January 20th and was kept at KNF IFF for quite some time afterwards. I'll also note that the base was set to not shoot anyone at all, and then observed you and some other ships shooting the base to provoke a hostile reaction.
Now personally, I consider what you've done to be OORP actions. KNF ID shooting a KNF IFF base? Meh, that's up to others to decide...but based on RP issues...the base is lawful and the faction owning it is lawful by mod lore..you dont' have cause to be shooting it.
Purposefully making your ship hostile to the base for the sole purpose of making it shoot at you so that you can shoot it with your battleship is to me an OORP thing. If you want to shoot the base, use an unlawful ship such as a Blood Dragon or Outcast.
(03-14-2013, 10:07 AM)Markus_Janus Wrote: Very true.
This could be taken a number of ways and it is always fun to explore them.
Even if you don't agree with how it started, it can still be fun.
Unfortunately the number of paths is limited, because the relationship of fractions like web, legalization Hogosha worsen relations with GMG for which they are the enemy and New Tokio - an important route to Bretonia. While GMG are allies Blood Dragons.
Such changes lead only to war like GMG-Rheinland.
For me personally, it is strange that the colony built in the flight from Sol war policies are leading to war. It would be interesting to introduce a new playable race of hostile aliens.
(03-05-2013, 02:21 AM)ryoken Wrote: So if for example a Kusari Navy IDd BS was firing on a Hogosha base for example, and another Kusari Navy ship fires on the BS. Is that a sanctionable offence?
Not going to weigh in on the question, just the topic.
The base in question your ship was shooting at was and is a legal and registered base in Kusari and owned by a faction that the mod lore considers to be lawful.
Your KNF BS shooting at it would be the one behaving OORPly.
Now, thing is...I've seen you on various ships shooting at the base...and when it wasn't shooting at you, you shot at it to force the base to shoot your ship..then complained about it shooting you.
One thing you may not have noticed, or more likely you didn't care about, is that the base was made KNF IFF on January 20th and was kept at KNF IFF for quite some time afterwards. I'll also note that the base was set to not shoot anyone at all, and then observed you and some other ships shooting the base to provoke a hostile reaction.
Now personally, I consider what you've done to be OORP actions. KNF ID shooting a KNF IFF base? Meh, that's up to others to decide...but based on RP issues...the base is lawful and the faction owning it is lawful by mod lore..you dont' have cause to be shooting it.
Purposefully making your ship hostile to the base for the sole purpose of making it shoot at you so that you can shoot it with your battleship is to me an OORP thing. If you want to shoot the base, use an unlawful ship such as a Blood Dragon or Outcast.
Just my 2 cents
Really? name the ships other then my KNF Battleship that fired on that base before the end of Feb. I am very curious to know of them, as i have only 2 ships in Kusari.And those are my Hogosha, and my KNF. My GMG stays away from Kusari now even, and mine in sigma's, and go's through Rhienland space.
So again, please name these ships you say are mine firing on that base, as only my KNF has done so,and only from end of feb to this incident, and not since.
Also you must not have read much of this topic, as it was stated even by admin both myself, and other BS were both INRP at the time. Thats why the topic title was changed over a week ago mate.
Try and keep up now.
So I've read through this entire thread (all 13 pages of it), but I didn't see a clear cut explanation why the base hasn't simply swapped back to a KSP IFF (if for no other reason than to simply stop the complaining and dying newbies). Could someone explain?
Are you people really still arguing about this base? Look, the base has been handled in an RP way so far, if you want to try to take it down, do it inRP, don't just continue the pointless bellyaching and Q_Q that you've been doing here, which is obviously not getting you anywhere.
If it was against the rules, admins would have dealt with it by now. If it was too much of an OORP base to keep existing, the admins would have dealt with it by now.
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