is the LSF allowed to use Nomad weaponry?

[sitapea]

As I have owned myself Freelancer server (not any mods, just tested having a server on lanparty with friends) and I did manage to check some files as you can make checks if person has some "ID" in his inventory to make it possible to mount specific weapons.

Example, if you have Police ID, you can't buy Liberty Rogue bomber. And if you unmount that ID and try to buy Liberty Rogue ID while having a Police ship, then it could say a warning or just not letting you to buy the ID. Same with mounted weapons, if you unmount an ID, then it could unmount the weapons aswell. Same with selling it.

[pchwang]

Scorn, you did have a good point in your first post, but I had no idea what you were talking about in your 2nd one. My argument is perfectly RP logical. My emotional aspect comes from the fact that people constantly go OORP by mounting nomad guns.

True, some people like RPing as heros and such, but that really isn't Freelancer. We aren't trying to make this a videogame were there are "Bosses" and they have special guns that make them uber. Even then, those "Bosses" are going to mount Codenames, not Nomad guns, unless they are specifically aligned with the nomads(Which no one should be at the moment).

Many of the people here are simply trying to RP as more or less normal people trying to do their jobs.

Do I have a villan char that is out of the ordinary? Sure. He will mount two Prometheus Codies.

The topic of the thread was Nomad guns, lets stick to that mates.

Edit:

I would rather stick with a nail gun if it fitted my RP.

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[7:42:05 PM][6:51:36 PM] Igor (Smokey): btw terry
[6:51:48 PM] Terrance Cooper: Ye?
[6:52:00 PM] Igor (Smokey): nothin
[6:52:03 PM] Igor (Smokey): just sayin btw
[6:52:05 PM] Terrance Cooper: <_<

Johnny_Haas: you shot anti criuse speed rockets!!!
Johnny_Haas: but why????
Johnny_Haas: ??
Johnny_Haas: why you shoot criuse speed rockets?

[Rogue63]

This is just the kind of thread that makes my blood boil. As far as the original topic, I could care less if the LSF uses Nomad tech. it stands to reason with the contact in Alaska that the LSF will destroy a few nomad ships salvage some parts and yes.....end up eventually with some weopons. And after getting there hands on some will use on there former owners or who-ever happens to be on there bad side.
Now what really gets my underwear in a bunch, is the people who are so incredibley strict with the weopons and ships. According to some right now I am OORP with my current ship on my Rogue char which now happens to be a Outcast cruiser. The Rogues having access to Outcast cruisers in on the info-card, who's to say I am not the owner of one of the few now not in Alpha. I rotate my ships every few weeks to keep things from getting ho-hum. Oh and yes when I had fighters I had Krackens (ooooohhh!!!) along with the Rogue lasers.
If an admin tells me I am OORP I will gladly sell it, but I will not bow-down to self appointed RP police. If my Rogue was flying a Corsair or some other ship that is hostile to the Rogues np sanction away I deserve it. People need to remember this is a game and meant to be fun, dont get so strict and rigid. Another idea is for the constant threads that are popping up with complaints is to start a new catagory "Whine & Cheese". The whine goes to the first poster and the cheese is the following replies. I did not mention any names is this post and not meant to flame any individuals. This is from a frustrated forum readers point of view, who's tired of all recent complaint threads, almost tired of reading the forums.

[pchwang]

Okay, your view is perfectly legit. I'm not trying to tell you how to RP mate.

I'm trying to make it harder to get Nomad guns mounted on your ship. That's the real problem we are having at the current moment.

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[7:42:05 PM][6:51:36 PM] Igor (Smokey): btw terry
[6:51:48 PM] Terrance Cooper: Ye?
[6:52:00 PM] Igor (Smokey): nothin
[6:52:03 PM] Igor (Smokey): just sayin btw
[6:52:05 PM] Terrance Cooper: <_<

Johnny_Haas: you shot anti criuse speed rockets!!!
Johnny_Haas: but why????
Johnny_Haas: ??
Johnny_Haas: why you shoot criuse speed rockets?

[ScornStar]

Times has passed and their are lots of nomads left, and they have guns and untill humans make better

ones. Humans are creature of opertunity thus use what works. If American stuck to the British RP of war

then we would not have stood a chance in the revolution. Instead we would have lined up in formations and

got shot and like the much more well equiped Britsh, cept they had more guns, ammo, men ,and better

training. The only way a smaller force has to beat a bigger is to use tactics non conventional to the more

powerful force. (the rule writters) Another example, the terrorist are not following American rules of

engagement, by useing suicide bombers, and IED(improveized explosive devices) there is no one in real life

to tell them they are out of RP and should use only camels, nerve gas and scimitars, so in order to compete

they got Russian and Chinese( houses) weapons from independent dealers (traders) to compensate were

their equipment falls short.

Ok, I can see were me talking of the rules crunch can throw some off. So, the reason I went that route is

because earlier I saw people in this thread suggesting more rules:shok:and I was shcoked to say the least.

Are we trying to give the other kind of bad RPer more leverage the RULE LAWYER. Trust me there are just

as many of those as there are all the other kinds put together, dont give them another rule to take

advantage of so they can own in their own little way. These types of threads are dangerous ground for the

freedom and fun of all to play, and those yet to come. I see newbies being bullied all the time now by

people everywhere screaming you should do this. why dont you have that? Why do you have that. Why

does your tag say (whatever). This thread is very much on that line with the one exception of it in the right

spot, and not screwing up my play. That just SLURPS the RP and fun out of the game. NO MORE rules

PLEASE, or better yet we are not all admin just, PLAY. Let the admin sort things out instead of heving to

babysitters cuz some screams "He shot me with an out of faction gun!" If your character has different

principles then fine, dont make me be like you.(no one in particular) I for one will use what works and I

govern MY RP, and if I see some one has a weapon thats way out of sorts for the normal variety then, I

guess they traveled. NPCs cant, and if the NPCs played to the fullest then we would not stand a chance. We

would be the 140 poor little piss ants next to computer entities that could travel trade make logical decisions

and outfit themselves as well as possible. I know that the rule was placed there to prevent the min/maxers

from going wild and everyone ending up in the same ship with the same load out thus killing veriety, but if

they did that they would all have the same weakness and I'd exploit THAT, then others would and then we

would end with other countering that, and then a counter for that, and then natural evolution of supply and

demand. Thus balanceing the playing field. So, in short I am opposed to any ruleing that takes freedom

from players. Thank you for considering if there are any questions PM me, or post here I will be following

this thread as the concensus of the community is what I'm worried about here. Do we make a rule to prune

down a already nearly non existant plot device for the Order which can spill over into every other factions

weapons and players choice being curbed more or do we tell the nay sayer to adapt? What do we the

community want more rules or freedoms?

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[pchwang]

Scorn...we're not trying to make more rules.

I just want the drop rate of Nomad guns decreased.

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[7:42:05 PM][6:51:36 PM] Igor (Smokey): btw terry
[6:51:48 PM] Terrance Cooper: Ye?
[6:52:00 PM] Igor (Smokey): nothin
[6:52:03 PM] Igor (Smokey): just sayin btw
[6:52:05 PM] Terrance Cooper: <_<

Johnny_Haas: you shot anti criuse speed rockets!!!
Johnny_Haas: but why????
Johnny_Haas: ??
Johnny_Haas: why you shoot criuse speed rockets?

[Unseelie]

Personaly, I think the community wants more RP.
Then again, I wouldn't consider someone on the other side to be a member of the community.
Disco is a stage, not an arena. You shouldn't be trying to win, you should be trying to tell a story.
Nomad guns, they enhance the arena, but not the stage.

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[Fellow Hoodlum]

What do we the community want more rules or freedoms?

What we want really is a little more thought to the roleplay, not what happens when you pull the trigger ...
Just because any of the equipment is there and available, doesn't mean you have to use it.
Thats called common sense, and should be part of your armoury, not what ever weapon is considered to
be the best in its class ...

Hoodlum

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[Horon]

I always thought that Nomad Blasters and Cannons were made by analyzing nomad weaponry, and creating a artificial copy of it, that is compatible with Human armaments, like ships, etc. But if raw Nomads have them, then nevermind...

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[ScornStar]

Personaly, I think the community wants more RP.
Then again, I wouldn't consider someone on the other side to be a member of the community.
Disco is a stage, not an arena. You shouldn't be trying to win, you should be trying to tell a story.
Nomad guns, they enhance the arena, but not the stage.

In some circles yes it is an arena but that is not my forte, but trade, supply & demand is RP, purposelly ignoring superior fire power just because your with a different gang is not RP. American Indians were useing Bows and arrows when the pilgrams arrived, but went to guns as soon as they were able, they didnt turn down the muscket cuz it was bad RP. This is nor D&D and we are not mages who cant pick up swords, or in this case we are not mystically forbidden from picking up a better hammer, shovel, ship, or gun, so itn't RP no to its short sighted. As for PVP I personally hardly engage in it and it helps my personal story more when I'm killed. That being said if someone attacks me I'm not going to insult them by wearing kiddy gloves, please don't do the kiddy gloves for me.

To remove them is to alter the game so the arena is a fair level field, since RP is to mimic human
interaction within the confines of a fictional realm then we should point out that life is not fair. Nomads had the guns they have and exsist in the quanities they do. What do we as players do to adapt to the nomads and those who use them. I as the Order will keep selling them to fund my war with Liberty.

Nomad guns are a plot device and now a commodity the Order has to trade. The arena is more an aspect
for terrorist, and pirates. Of which I am niether. I simply dont want the veriety to be scaled down. Beside some faction are already enacting in game laws which is awesome. inconvienient to me but cool and logical.

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