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Capital Ships and the Future of Discovery RP 24/7
Offline Thyrzul
06-24-2013, 11:09 AM,
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(06-24-2013, 10:51 AM)MiniStryke Wrote: If there's going to be a solution, it's making fighters more fun

(06-24-2013, 10:26 AM)Thyrzul Wrote: And afaik snub combat is just about to change, so that doesn't seem to be a valid reason either.

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Offline Luke.
06-24-2013, 12:32 PM,
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Well then that may change things in the wrong run, who knows. I gathered that OP's argument was essentially that Caps are ruining Disco. They're not, they're just the more interesting alternative while fighter based PvP is really mundane.

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Offline Thyrzul
06-24-2013, 12:39 PM,
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What I gather from the OP's argument is that while he blames caps, he brings up arguments pointing out that it's the players misusing them who are problematic, the ones not being able or wishing to use caps properly, and the OP actually offers a solution to that, a solution generally not affecting caps, rather their availability.

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Offline NonSequitor
06-24-2013, 01:32 PM,
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Honestly, much ado about nothing. Cap (mis)usage is the least of this community's problems.

BSes are good for organized events, rp platforms and mission grinding. And that's about it. A couple of half-awake bomber pilots with nova torps and a minimum of dodging skills will take down a BS with ease.

Cruisers are great support vessels, with an emphasis on support. Alone they are meat for the grinder.

If the OP and those sharing his viewpoint really want to restrict cap usage, particularily BS usage, then I guess they're prepared for a much smaller playerbase.

As someone who's been here awhile, I think (fixable) problems are the following:

1) Sirius is too large in relation to the playerbase.
2) PoBs are too labor-intensive as well as being next to indestructible.
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Offline Pinko
06-24-2013, 01:47 PM,
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Remember when Discovery was about being a community, even before being a roleplay server? Meant to include and merge every of its members into one group, rather than splintering its cells with elitism?

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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Offline Thyrzul
06-24-2013, 01:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-24-2013, 02:01 PM by Thyrzul.)
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(06-24-2013, 01:47 PM)Dancing Lady Wrote: Remember when Discovery was about being a community, even before being a roleplay server? Meant to include and merge every of its members into one group, rather than splintering its cells with elitism?

Nah, I'm not that old, I joined Discovery when it was about being a community forming around a roleplay server. Meant to include and merge every of its members into one group around roleplay, enjoying the story of a galaxy we can all shape. And I joined Discovery for the community AND the roleplay. What I don't get is why one has to exclude the other.

EDIT: Why should the term "elitism" exist? Why does something being standard for one having to be "elitism" for the other?

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Offline Highland Laddie
06-24-2013, 02:07 PM,
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Quote:Caps generate lolwuttery

No....people generate lolwuttery. This is the same kind of idiotic logic that should also be saying butter and spoons create fat people.

People can be jerks in a snub just as easily in a cap. It's a people problem, not a ship problem.
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Offline Madvillain
06-24-2013, 02:11 PM,
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(06-24-2013, 02:07 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:
Quote:Caps generate lolwuttery
People can be jerks in a snub just as easily in a cap. It's a people problem, not a ship problem.

good point , often a troll in a light fighter is worse than a troll in a capship , because it's more difficult to get rid off.

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Offline Pinko
06-24-2013, 02:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-24-2013, 02:47 PM by Pinko.)
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(06-24-2013, 01:58 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: EDIT: Why should the term "elitism" exist? Why does something being standard for one having to be "elitism" for the other?

THE REVOLUTION OF THE CLASSES, COM'RAD.

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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Offline Thyrzul
06-24-2013, 02:55 PM,
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(06-24-2013, 02:07 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: No....people generate lolwuttery. This is the same kind of idiotic logic that should also be saying butter and spoons create fat people.

People can be jerks in a snub just as easily in a cap. It's a people problem, not a ship problem.

Riiiiiiiight, the same argument again. Guns kill people? No, people kill people... Thing is, you definitely got better chances at murder with a pistol in your hand than with just your bare fists.

Sure, if there are no bad people, there is nobody to exploit problematic toys. But then if those toys are fixed, then again, there is nobody able to exploit them. You can't say only ships or people are at fault here, both are part of the issue. And good luck balancing people.

Also, guess what, usage restriction doesn't affect ships in any way. It filters the ones who want to use them. It filters the "people generating lolwuttery".

@Dancing Lady: Lol.

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