United Zoners [ Still In process ] - Feedback

[Zen_Mechanics]

The idea that I came up with was to create a faction that will represent all the zoner bodies, official and none-officials alike, much like the corsair elders, comprised by different influencial families in the corsair nation.
This does not mean it kills the factions themselves, but it does mean it will be responsible for the stuff that generaly involves zoners.

My image of this faction resembels the "United Nations" - legal orginization comprised by various countries. Why? Well I think its better than what we currently have, I personaly think that it will prevent any "unwanted" conflicts and will restrain faction leaders to decide for their own in things that reflect on us all.

I know what you're thinking, and its not about the old ZTC and the etc, it will be different but will be similiar at the same time.
The faction will be diplomatic in nature when it comes to other people ( none-zoners ) - 3xZoner or "angry zoner" are the exact things that the orginization is going to fight for and hopefully decrease its "popularity".

The orginization will not take full control of everything, for example, livadia is under the ownership of Phoenix, they decide what to do with it, but they should cooperate if the need arises ( won't be any problem there as they are reasonable and friendly ) - Or TAZ who owns Baffin, while Baffin is completely under the control of the TAZ, it does not mean the orignization will have the power to change TAZ laws regarding the system, but again they should cooperate if its for the greater good.

However, it will have a legal status to do what it takes to enforce the "amendments" that will be written down in the suggested "constituion"
Democracy of today in the RL has its faults, but its the best form of "government" or a "way of handeling things" at the present moment.
To anwser the more "critical" questions, this is not an attempt to build a "government" or an empire, nor it will be hostile and start waging wars onto others. It will be fully "democratic" right from its foundation, and it will only pass resolutions/decisions upon a mutual agreement of all the factions or in a card play of who has the more "A's". This will kill the fake notion of "biased" players who have multiple characters in opossing factions and it will sort out things logicaly & according to the evidence.

I want you lads to have an open mind, Im taking this step to ensure that the stuff that happend during this month will not repeat itself and will have a safe network of communication between factions. I would like to hear from the zoner faction leaders what they think, but hopefully it will be welcomed.

I haven't written down everything, but I will do so soon. One thing that I ougth to say, Im not going to be the "president", like board meetings, you have the chairman and the board members, the chairman can pass only temporary resolutions which then must be approved by the other board members.
It's like the president passing a law that has to be accepted later on by the senate else it falls.

Edit : Those who do not sign in, such as indie zoners, are not bound to follow our rules as they are "free" to do what they want and we will never govern them
Keep those feedbacks going, Thank you.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Haste]

A government which has authority over Zoners is exactly what Zoners "fled" from in the first place by leaving the housing behind and "chasing" independence, isn't it?

Edit:
Let me reword that. Not necessarily "government", but bureaucratic nonsense and organizations that limit their freedom.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

A government which has authority over Zoners is exactly what Zoners "fled" from in the first place by leaving the housing behind and "chasing" independence, isn't it?

Edit:
Let me reword that. Not necessarily "government", but bureaucratic nonsense and organizations that limit their freedom.

It will not have "ownership" of zoners, it will be one body representing a group of factions, and will be legal to do so in the factions that signed it. those who do not sign it are not expected to follow us and its completley fine and fair.

Re-edit : zoners are not bound to follow rules, only the ones that they have dictated for themselves, this is not an attempt to govern all zoners, but it will have status on those who sign it ( and I don't see why the majority will not sign it, its a good thing overall )

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Haste]

The question is, which of the Zoner factions would decide to do away with some of their own responsibilities - and freedoms - to instead unite like this? I don't think any of the main Zoner groups are having major issues holding their own diplomatically. For the sake of discussion, I'm ignoring the ZA here as they're.. Special.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

Well, as I said the orginization will only focus on the things that matter, such as ZA, which matters to all the factions, or local.. small things, again its not going to be a government, but its going to be an orginization devoted for a number of things, but most importantly to work together, and have those network tubes all lined up so we all get the information as is it is.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Di'taraAlpha]

A good idea, but what's the structuring and lore? (albeit this can be developed later on in parity between all of the Zoner Groups. It could provide a good buffer movement against Omicron-74 style incidents so, yeah, I'm all for it. Might take some form of extended discussion with the people it's going to affect though.

[Haste]

Yet at the same time it's risky for groups like the Phoenix Zoners to unite under a common banner with the ZA. The ZA have made.. interesting diplomatic choices in the past. They'd drag down anyone who's in the "United Zoners" with them. Doesn't seem beneficial overall.

I'd definitely refrain from signing if I were them.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

Well I will start working on it, but Im not going to do it alone, obviously im going to need Ed- Eclipse and all the faction leaders to have a little talk, if they are open-minded and are willing to try it out.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Zen_Mechanics]

Yet at the same time it's risky for groups like the Phoenix Zoners to unite under a common banner with the ZA. The ZA have made.. interesting diplomatic choices in the past. They'd drag down anyone who's in the "United Zoners" with them. Doesn't seem beneficial overall.

I'd definitely refrain from signing if I were them.

Good point, and I have anwsered that in a way. That's why i want this thing done, this way other factions that are not involved in such things can be the eyes and ears and let them express their opinion and cast the votes.

If one group does something, and it gives a bad name to all of us, all the other factions will simply raise their opinion, cast the vote and come up with a decision that is not made up by 1 guy but by everyone.
I mentioned that democracy has its flaws, sometimes it will decide things that will not be so "welcomed" to others, but 10 against 9 is fair, and its fair to say that if most people agreed then it deserves to be passed.
Re-edit, thats why everyone will have its obligations, those who had a bad history track should do a little "apologies", well maybe not little, but again I don't want zoners shooting zoners, its pathetic and outright insane.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Thyrzul]

A government which has authority over Zoners is exactly what Zoners "fled" from in the first place by leaving the housing behind and "chasing" independence, isn't it?

Lol, don't tell them what they can do or can't by interpreting Zoner Lore in your own way, it is vague enough to grant civilians warships, who knows, they may form their own government. Many says things are changing, don't stand in the way of changes. Zoner Rp is full of possibilities.[/sarcasm]

On a more serious note (and I don't want to turn down anything or discourage anybody, but) I think if Zoner factions want to unite because they share goals, they will do so themselves. I personally find an initiative popping up just to unite Zoners without any common goal to reach or issue to address and solve pointless, and I don't really expect too much Zoner factions joining this initiative.

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