Zoner Alliance Faction Feedback [ June ]

[Omicron]

Tel, personnal advice.

Seeing you as player with several ideas and motivation, why wont you cut yourself completely from entire ZA mess and get something done in seperation from their troublemakers? Protecting them does not exactly gives you any profit and as you have said several times you are no longer affilated to them for this reason or another.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

I am in favor of them because it took jinx 2 months to express his opinion, 2 bloody months for someone to actually say the right things, and doing my math its 100 folks against a handeful of them, and they need all the help they can get, because its no longer a za-ai war, its an information war, and right now the wrong side is winning, especialy when you have these self-styled anti-zoners, what a joke these people are.

Edit 2 : Don't worry I'll be doing my little "adventure" and perhaps build a faction of my own, that'll push everyone a thousand years into the past, rendering this fossilised thougth we call "ZA".

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Rodnas]

Not trying to be the devils advocate here - but how do you expect to solve your problems if you

[don't debate or discuss with people that have attacked me, in-directly or directly alike, I

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For real, you can't expect that all these factions that sit on your doorstep bend their rp around until it suits you. Inrply the ZA is beaten, in game it is a matter of time till "defeat". So one would think that inRP you would ever hiss the white flag, hoping on mercy or be wiped from Omicron 74. Of course this being a game, life and ships have no meaning other than waiting 2h to hit the respawn button.

Everyone has to extend his hand, not only one party...and there is no sense in all this "you first" here... this is a game and it is about fun, and i can hardly imagine this slugfest is fun to you guys anymore, take a breath, step away a bit...and get things straight again without going all hardcore and insisting on you being right no matter what. Really, no offense, just well ment advice here!

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[Zen_Mechanics]

I would if I was with them, but given the feedback I don't think that inrp they will even be in favor of a peace treaty. Infact until hawk breaks the ice, this is a ZA AI war only, all other factions entered due to a oorp event but they can't be blamed for that. I called hawk once and walla no more pinheads doing it, I just can't believe that he had to visit their himself to actually let them know they will be dealt with. If it was a rp war, which it was at first, I would have no problem with it what so ever, but as soon as you do oorp alliances in five minutes with a group and then support thier agenda both in word and deed, it begins to break down, now add the other factions to the math.. great RP or great swindle?

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Thyrzul]

I am in favor of them because it took jinx 2 months to express his opinion, 2 bloody months for someone to actually say the right things

Ohoho, so it took 2 months to find somebody actually agreeing with you guys and you take his words granted, just because he says what you want to hear? Isn't that called... umm... selective perception? (I swear I've read about this word somewhere in the recent past...)

and doing my math its 100 folks against a handeful of them, and they need all the help they can get

What they need is to realize their mistakes and fix them to end this mess.

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[Alvin]

Infact until hawk breaks the ice, this is a ZA AI war only, all other factions entered due to a oorp event but they can't be blamed for that.

Have you also forgot that the factions hostilities re-ignited with Kappa Defense Station was set RED to everyone JUST 2 days after you cried out for a ceasefire? Meaning anyone new to this area entering O-74, which was supposedly a free system would get blown up again?

[Zen_Mechanics]

I am in favor of them because it took jinx 2 months to express his opinion, 2 bloody months for someone to actually say the right things

Ohoho, so it took 2 months to find somebody actually agreeing with you guys and you take his words granted, just because he says what you want to hear? Isn't that called... umm... selective perception? (I swear I've read about this word recently somewhere in the recent past...)

and doing my math its 100 folks against a handeful of them, and they need all the help they can get

What they need is to realize their mistakes and fix them to end this mess.

Well granted the fact that you called "zoners" civilians not only proves you have no idea what zoners are, but claiming that jinx has false information is beyond me, If you are looking for information about zoners, you direct yourself to him, pure n simple. And I don't select opinions, I think you all along the way stuck with your version of reality while ignoring the true ugly one and I have supported both parties claims and still am, but when you raise a finger and point someone who is innocent, that is 100% innocent and turn it into a laughing stock, guess who would I be in favour with?

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Highland Laddie]

@Thyrzul - okay, but if you put the pistol in the murderer's hand, do you bare no fault if you end up getting shot?

You may not have trolled ZA personally, but you did say they deserve to be treated with malice because of how they RP. You say they brought it on themselves. That's what I was referencing.

And you don't just throw up a core 4 base in 5 minutes,.much less 4 bases with turrets. And in your guard system? I'm no detective, but that seems like it should have set off some alarms with somebody before it got to the point it has.

So, as I see it, and based on Quiron's response, it sounds more like Phoenix decided to do nothing more so than they "couldn't" do anything. And that's fine if they decide they don't want to police themselves that way because that's part of being a Zoner. But....decisions have consequences, and now they are obviously seeing the fruits of that decision, eh? That's why I think ZA shouldn't bear all the blame they are getting.

@Di'TaraAlpha - Given the current state of things in Omicron-74, I find the whole discussion relevent in justifying ZA's RP and giving them some actual positive feedback from a more objective position (which I consider myself, seeing as I have no real skin in the situation there). Given that, I'm sure they'd appreciate my feedback staying in the thread.

[Zen_Mechanics]

Infact until hawk breaks the ice, this is a ZA AI war only, all other factions entered due to a oorp event but they can't be blamed for that.

Have you also forgot that the factions hostilities re-ignited with Kappa Defense Station was set RED to everyone JUST 2 days after you cried out for a ceasefire? Meaning anyone new to this area entering O-74 which was supposedly a free system would get blown up again?

There is no "I", and It's their bases they can do what they want, infact given the situation I actively encourage them to keep it that way, thats sure to raise the pinheads blood pressure. They must be tearing their hair out in frustration everytime they see those bases, and quite the opposite if they want to fix the base issue, ( and they desperatly do ) make peace with them, after all if the ZA will not listen to the general za-hating-multi-double-standard-pinheads ain't much you can do now isn'ti t?

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Highland Laddie]

@Tel-Aviv - lack of diplomacy would be a poor choice on ZA's part. Even the US and USSR still had diplomatic channels during the height of the Cold War. And even now US is in talks with Taliban because they know they aren't gonna win the war long-term without diplomacy.

Again....maybe both sides just have crappy diplomacy RP....