Simply what I expect from the RP community members is the attitude of rp promotion and putting it above the "easy word-less fun" or so. This what I expect to see when it comes to rp.
If your ingame group does not seek for fun being achieved via RP and you promote your own way as you pointed above (gathering after work, relaxing and all - not a crime, yuh, agreed), you are free to do so. But honestly, why don't you (as for example) start own server with couple of bases and just play team vs team? You've got plenty men for that.
Why saying that? From what I might know you tend to disturb irp environment with your actions, and your words tend to upset me ruining my illusion of the Discovery being a roleplay oriented game... Less or more.... I hope...
Or as an option - build your own bases, and destroy them, playing team vs team ( you are ingame group after all, won't be much troubles crossing RP logics ).
(07-24-2013, 10:19 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Legit question: How much does it cost to get the Bass Hunters to show up with a half dozen Legates at some coordinates?
They're not going to shoot Goldern Coin for reasons identical why you want that base gone.
I have something else that's a bit of an eyesore I'm not sure about. I don't care about the Coin myself (my character does, there's the difference), I'll just go around it.
Bass Hunters are living reason for admins to delete more ships and distribute bans more liberally...
You're only griefing for sake of destroying other's players sandcastles. Bases that actually are incarnations of all flaws of the very POB concept are still camping jumpholes.
Would you be such robin hoods of the discovery, you would know what to do. Otherwise, you are just collective of disco's worst human trash.
(07-24-2013, 11:06 AM)Syrus Wrote: Because it's not your server. It's not you who makes the rules. It's the admins rights to make the rules and interpret them as they wish to, to dictate this server, if they feel like it. If they feel like you are interrupting RP and gameplay by the way you behave here, then they have to step in. They should have done so even earlier. Seeing the 0.0 "rule being erased" was a bad thing, now everyone feels like they can do what they want, as long as it's "within the rules", even if it isn't along the "behave yourself" part anymore.
You have the right to play here until the moment that the people who lead this server decide that they don't appreciate your presence anymore. Obviously that point had been reached before, and just because you know how to circumvent the ban issued upon you, you are back now. Obvious is also, that most people do not wish you to be here, even if your little group has the "loudest voice" on the forum. Most people just quit quietly because of you: they just don't log anymore at one time. And players just starting out get trashed too early to really get into the server and the forums a lot. Don't think of yourself as being innocent, you know exactly what I mean. Your metagame'y piracy, your metagaming to hurt people...
Yes, it's just pixels. But the time put into them - that's still REAL time. And while you might have no value for such, other people do. But you just don't get that. It's just beyond you.
A lot of your arguments seem moot and unnecessary. The Bass Hunters are aware of the rules, and they follow them. Why is it they still get punished, and why do their opposer who actually seem to be breaking rules get a pat on the back? The only ones interrupting roleplay and breaking rule "0.0" because those few pixels they managed almost permanently add to the server are just too valuable too lose for them, as they try to pull every little string to safe it from being removed.
In a way, the Bass Hunters hilariously seem to represent The Joker. While their goal is not comparable, they do bring the worst out of everyone around them. In the end, the others step down to their level and prove they aren't any better.
And just for your information, the Bass Hunters is a group that doesn't belong to me. In fact, I barely participate in it at all.
(07-24-2013, 11:10 AM)belarusich Wrote: Yo
Kill Goldern Coin plz
Thx
Nope.
(07-24-2013, 11:13 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: I have something else that's a bit of an eyesore I'm not sure about. I don't care about the Coin myself (my character does, there's the difference), I'll just go around it.
Which base would that be then, out of curiosity? Keep in mind that you roughly need 4, 8, 12 and 20 battleships to even damage a core 1, 2, 3 and 4 base in that order which has repair commodities on board. Actually killing a base takes a lot of timing and planning, and it isn't as simple as it seems like.
Yes, base owners. You are VERY much capable of having your bases survive against the Bass Hunters.
Sindroms Wrote:As for me, I simply said the ''Your way'' thing as an example. I could care less for POBs, I just want to grab a beer, play with friends, and just have fun in the evenings after work. Just like many other Bass Hunters, I just happen to have a cap gathering dust, I like shooting things and want to do that in a group of people.
Agreed mate, I also just want to have fun on Disco once I get back from life's harder stuff. But I want to do that with the assertion that everybody else is playing to the same rules I myself am.
For instance, airing a cap just to shoot a base with mates boarders the edge of RP legitimacy. You want to shoot bases with mates? Then make sure you have the backing of the Official Faction which possesses the ID's you are using on those caps. If you don't have their backing, then it's bad Rp form to be doing it.
Caps entitle people to a vast amount of destructive power, so this should always be made up by heavy RP awareness and RP responsiveness when being used. Any ship logged with an Oorp intent is an Oorp ship. Oorp intents cannot be justified nor legitimised, as they constitute metagaming which is a server rule violation.
It's not who you know (I.E, on Skype) but what you know (I.E, game rules, faction diplomacy, Rp boundaries, ZOI's, Base reasoning/destruction reasoning, what you create (Rp creation, both ingame and on forums), which legitimises pew. All conflict should have Rp catalyst. No exceptions.
This group has taken on the role of unofficial base Admins which I'm pretty sure is the Moderator's job.If your logic is correct, then what's to stop us all making an Oorp anti-Bass Hunters group then? Point blank; nothing if your reasoning is right.
(07-24-2013, 10:42 AM)sindroms Wrote: Point me to a couple of groups, whose ONLY motivation is roleplay. Instead of:
A) PVP relief
B) Money making
C) Both above.
I am sure there ARE groups focused on RP elements, but everyone has their own agenda. We just decided to place ours in front of the RP sign, instead of trying to hide it behind it.
Aw well, I perfectly agree with this faction. No, seriously, I do. Having all these PoBs destroyed will narrow down player interactivity and trade routes to select few points and imagine after some time... when lots of PoBs are destroyed thanks to bass hungers , and I will poof out a PoB out of a sudden with trade resources and facilities and all that. People will rush to it as there are few other PoBs left and I will get into income. I mean, it's utterly EXQUISITE.
Not that I am implying anything, folks, though, I am certain that this thought that rushed into my head doesn't belong to me only. And that is exactly what I want to express.
(07-24-2013, 11:15 AM)Omicron Wrote: Bass Hunters are living reason for admins to delete more ships and distribute bans more liberally...
You're only griefing for sake of destroying other's players sandcastles. Bases that actually are incarnations of all flaws of the very POB concept are still camping jumpholes.
Would you be such robin hoods of the discovery, you would know what to do. Otherwise, you are just collective of disco's worst human trash.
Hmm... I have to agree with you on this one. I also find the bolded and underlined part I bolded and underlined myself in your quote rather convenient in the long run. It seems like, Disco needs to experience certain inconveniences ( and in a good number ) for measures to be taken in order to have inconveniences like those prevented in the future. Sad, but true.
(08-10-2015, 07:03 PM)Antonio- Wrote: King Eduard is the greatest
(07-24-2013, 11:31 AM)DitaraAlpha Wrote: You want to shoot bases with mates? Then make sure you have the backing of the Official Faction which possesses the ID's you are using on those caps. If you don't have their backing, then it's bad Rp form to be doing it.
The whole point of being an indi is freedom. This is anything but that. Honestly, as if the 99% damage reduction of a base isn't enough passive defense for a base. You're going to tell me next that I need the blessing of an official faction to even make an indi character with their ID?
(07-24-2013, 11:31 AM)DitaraAlpha Wrote: If your logic is correct, then what's to stop us all making an Oorp anti-Bass Hunters group then?
The displayed attitude is just great. What I love about you guys is that you do not even pretend not to be complete idiots. You wave the poster in front of you into everybody's faces.
Of course you are fighting a defensive battle here, so that's ofc not easy. But if you ever even hope to get accepted (which you do not), you are doing it wrong. If you really cared for what is written here (which you do not), you should react differently in here.
But... hey... most people with a bit of Disco experience know who you are. So... keep going. Enjoy your afternoon/evening of forum-rage and troll-replies. I hope you get the fun that I bet you get from this.
Thought I would make two replies here to break it up a bit.
Doj Wrote:A lot of your arguments seem moot and unnecessary. The Bass Hunters are aware of the rules, and they follow them. Why is it they still get punished...
The Base Hunters get punished because of Oorp reasoning. But since (in your own words) you've already said the RP part of DISCOVERY RP 24/7 SERVER is apparently invalid and should be removed, all the game rule based arguments stated before you are nothing but "moot" to you. Thus it's impossible to convince you otherwise.
The Base Hunters are getting punished for using caps as Oorp game exploits to create Oorp task forces biased against Oorp game targets. They use every Cap-weilding ID in the game, have somehow created an Oorp unofficial group (a bit wrong in itself), post messages allegedly from a faction which goes against the whims of the officials, nearly made the Omicron wars 100% worse, seem to completely disregard negotiations InRp, and aren't accountable to anyone but themselves. They percieve PoB's (which take vast amounts of time and effort to maintain) as "pixels", with no difference to the Rp which supports them. Their ganks are planned unannounced without any forum Rp and/or Ingame Rp beforehand as happens in all InRp legitimate base ganks, and operate pan-faction, pan-meta, with names which seem inconsistent with their forces (why is there a legate named Trader_Zoner????). Even when Rp does have some place the reactions are disproportionate (for instance, when Sindrom's Corsair legate landed on Gammu to buy capguns there, [which InRp should really be happening if warned off by a Consensian], was shot down, and then a revengegank of many, many lolgates unsanctioned by the Council Of Elders (Corsairs are neutral to AI) destroyed the AI POB. That's... pretty crazy. Even bases with significantly bigger RP sheets than that have fallen before the Base hunters, for way less legitimate reasons. It's just about viable that a Corsiar cartel could have been angered enough to generate that capspam, but it's not at all viable that the GRN would shoot down legitimate Gallic bases against the will of the.... ahem... the GRN.
This whole idea is filled full of holes.
Oh and Kudos Henderson, Ed, Omicron and swallow. Oh and Katyn too xD.
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Oh and Katyn too xD.