The Crimson's Flares Feedback Thread

[Yber]

Complaining about lags after losing a fight isn't good sport, and you're getting used to it.

Just sayin'.

[31.07.2013 22:56:39] Death: Purple.Flare. was put out of action by Dethroned (Gun)
[31.07.2013 22:56:42] Dethroned: Nope.
[31.07.2013 22:57:11] Purple.Flare.: // good fight
[31.07.2013 22:57:32] Purple.Flare.: // except your 12% lag and invincle hull
[31.07.2013 22:59:03] Golden.Flare: pingtarget
[31.07.2013 22:59:25] Golden.Flare - Ping: 62ms (Max: 1000ms) Fluct: 2ms Loss: 0% (Max: 70%) Lag: 0% (Max: 100%)
[31.07.2013 22:59:27] Ping: 119ms (Max: 1000ms) Fluct: 3ms Loss: 0% (Max: 70%) Lag: 0% (Max: 100%)

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inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.

[Flash™]

:| I should start taking screens.....

Anyways, I was mad in RL, my cousin broke my headphones, the one time I pinged you had 12% lag, but Im sure it went away right after. Sorry for the rage Yber, and it was a fun fight bro

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[Total.Absolution]

So today I encountered some of your members, along with fellow pilots of the [LN]. And suffice to say, I was rather disappointed in the general attitude and actions of most of your pilots (but not all). First off, one of our Pilots logged in to find Silver Flare and a couple other ships floating near manhattan. Once sighted, they flew off. In other words, avoiding interaction whatsoever when not on their terms. Afterwards, I found Silver flare and he proceeded to silently run to the system wall (Until after 5 minutes or so when I PM'd him to at least say something.)

Later on, a couple flares started RPing in the system chat, and then eventually it led to a bit of bickering between [LN] and Flare pilots. This is fine, I don't mind RPing about in system chat. But I do mind when people silently run to the system wall.

Additionally, Silver flare accused the [LN] of aimbotting. I'm just going to say now, in no way would we ever ever freaking ever tolerate someone using -any- sort of hack/aimbot or any form of cheap software to get a cheap advantage. But accusing us of it doesn't show a high level of maturity from your side.

Moving on, I got encountered by a couple of Rogue Werewolf's by Baltimore, and then eventually Pink and Silver flare turned up. After a small bout of talking, the Rogue started shooting at me and naturally I shot back. At this point I was still alone, however Pink flare went to assist the Rogue, then the other Rogue hopped in, and -then- Silver flares jumped in as well. Let me get this straight, when was it ok to attack a single fighter with quadruple the forces, and about 2-3 lines of roleplay? I seriously hope you'll edge away from unfair fights such as this, because its in no way fun for the outnumbered party, ever. And to top it all off, after an allied [LN] pilot moved in to assist me, a Rogue Cruiser moved in and engaged as well. So 2 Rogues, 2 Flares and a Scylla on two fighters. Again, lame.

However, that being said, after the fight was over Pink flare opted for a duel, and after a rather tough fight Pink actually was polite once the conclusion was reached. Heck, I even had a bit of friendly chat. This -is- good, I like seeing a friendly attitude even after a fight. I hope your group could follow Pinks example more.

Also, here is some evidence for these events.

And off topic from what happened today - generally, getting shot at by Flares or shooting at them is decent fun. And its encouraging to know that there are some who have friendly attitudes, especially towards a faction that they often attack.

[Reid]

So a month or so ago I came across Silver Flare

Lemme explain what happened

I was flying about on my USI Guardian, not giving a fugg and being happy. I then jumped into California. In my sight when I jumped in was Silver, A Rogue Gunboat, and an OC Tridente. Before I even had a chance to see my HUD, I was spammed with CDs. Right afterwords, Silver started going on and on about killing me. During this, luckily, the Tridente left. Unluckily for me, Silver and the gunboat attacked my poor little Guardian. So I did what any crazy person would do, and fought back. We pewed and pewed and pewed, and Silver was obviously losing, despite his fat friend. During this time, I also contacted an SFC ship to see if he could come save me. Luckily, he did. Turns out, the SFC was a LSC, and came in guns blazing. Silver and the gunboat scattered. The SFC went after the gunboat and I chased after Silver (But couldn't catch him, MR Guardians are boss). He ran to Alcatraz and started hugging it like a monkey hugs its momma. After a while of some ego-ripping, he decided to duel me. Away from the station we started, his Havok vs my Super-Awesome-Mega-82%Core-Guardian. During this time, I dropped one, I repeat and emphasize, ONE nuclear class heat seeking anti-ship mine device. As soon as he saw this ONE nuclear class heat seeking anti-ship mine device, Silver started whining like a babe about how I was nuclearclassheatseekinganti-shipminedevicespamming. After this, he turned his ship around, and decided he was going to flee to the 800K-away-invisible-cloud-of-instadeath-with-no-ego-killing-bluemsg. I decided I wasn't going to deal with this stupidity and flew away.

I'd post proof but I deleted it

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[Abuzar]

Alright First of all you from [LN] let me get this straight to you . You are from one of the biggest Gankign factions, If we gank font cry, We run coz we dont want our members to be ganked, i am not silve, some one else is.

Thats how it works in Liberty because its lolberty [LN]=LNS for me , Nothing more at this time. In the time of Joe, He care to have a snub fight rather then caps spamming missiles on me. I remember i was ganked by 4 [LN], SFC cruiser spamming missiles .. i hope you will say when?? [LN] dont gank. Lame

[LN] Ganks,consider yourself to be ganked in coming future, We will do the same what you did to us in Past,present and in coming furture . So if you keep saying you are so honourable pilot,Lame.

All i can say is Cry me a river. Because This is "LIBERTY" And Proofs you gaves us Edited,Dont come witht hat next time because that was a lame also for me, Bring original proofs of getting ganked so i will tell my people to increase ganking numbers use 6 fighters instead of 3 G'day

So a month or so ago I came across Silver Flare

Lemme explain what happened

I was flying about on my USI Guardian, not giving a fugg and being happy. I then jumped into California. In my sight when I jumped in was Silver, A Rogue Gunboat, and an OC Tridente. Before I even had a chance to see my HUD, I was spammed with CDs. Right afterwords, Silver started going on and on about killing me. During this, luckily, the Tridente left. Unluckily for me, Silver and the gunboat attacked my poor little Guardian. So I did what any crazy person would do, and fought back. We pewed and pewed and pewed, and Silver was obviously losing, despite his fat friend. During this time, I also contacted an SFC ship to see if he could come save me. Luckily, he did. Turns out, the SFC was a LSC, and came in guns blazing. Silver and the gunboat scattered. The SFC went after the gunboat and I chased after Silver (But couldn't catch him, MR Guardians are boss). He ran to Alcatraz and started hugging it like a monkey hugs its momma. After a while of some ego-ripping, he decided to duel me. Away from the station we started, his Havok vs my Super-Awesome-Mega-82%Core-Guardian. During this time, I dropped one, I repeat and emphasize, ONE nuclear class heat seeking anti-ship mine device. As soon as he saw this ONE nuclear class heat seeking anti-ship mine device, Silver started whining like a babe about how I was nuclearclassheatseekinganti-shipminedevicespamming. After this, he turned his ship around, and decided he was going to flee to the 800K-away-invisible-cloud-of-instadeath-with-no-ego-killing-bluemsg. I decided I wasn't going to deal with this stupidity and flew away.

I'd post proof but I deleted it

Now your Turn. Flares dont shot Liberty Corporations Unless they Attack Flares, We go not bounty on your head,No reason to open Fire, Unless Hired by a Rogue to kill you or a bounty placed in game on your head. Then we are allowed to burn you,Next time if you claim such thing saying that he did this and that,bring me the proof i will take care of people in my faction better. Otherwise, "LIBERTY"that way>>>You dont have proof?? don't Talk about it

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[Lythrilux]

Alright First of all you from [LN] let me get this straight to you . You are from one of the biggest Gankign factions, If we gank font cry, We run coz we dont want our members to be ganked, i am not silve, some one else is.

Thats how it works in Liberty because its lolberty [LN]=LNS for me , Nothing more at this time. In the time of Joe, He care to have a snub fight rather then caps spamming missiles on me. I remember i was ganked by 4 [LN], SFC cruiser spamming missiles .. i hope you will say when?? [LN] dont gank. Lame

[LN] Ganks,consider yourself to be ganked in coming future, We will do the same what you did to us in Past,present and in coming furture . So if you keep saying you are so honourable pilot,Lame.

All i can say is Cry me a river. Because This is "LIBERTY" And Proofs you gaves us Edited,Dont come witht hat next time because that was a lame also for me, Bring original proofs of getting ganked so i will tell my people to increase ganking numbers use 6 fighters instead of 3 G'day

So what? If someone asks or offers fair fights you take it. That's what I do.
What you're saying is basically the way SFC talk, which is ironic.
[LN] =/= SFC/LNS.

So a month or so ago I came across Silver Flare

Lemme explain what happened

I was flying about on my USI Guardian, not giving a fugg and being happy. I then jumped into California. In my sight when I jumped in was Silver, A Rogue Gunboat, and an OC Tridente. Before I even had a chance to see my HUD, I was spammed with CDs. Right afterwords, Silver started going on and on about killing me. During this, luckily, the Tridente left. Unluckily for me, Silver and the gunboat attacked my poor little Guardian. So I did what any crazy person would do, and fought back. We pewed and pewed and pewed, and Silver was obviously losing, despite his fat friend. During this time, I also contacted an SFC ship to see if he could come save me. Luckily, he did. Turns out, the SFC was a LSC, and came in guns blazing. Silver and the gunboat scattered. The SFC went after the gunboat and I chased after Silver (But couldn't catch him, MR Guardians are boss). He ran to Alcatraz and started hugging it like a monkey hugs its momma. After a while of some ego-ripping, he decided to duel me. Away from the station we started, his Havok vs my Super-Awesome-Mega-82%Core-Guardian. During this time, I dropped one, I repeat and emphasize, ONE nuclear class heat seeking anti-ship mine device. As soon as he saw this ONE nuclear class heat seeking anti-ship mine device, Silver started whining like a babe about how I was nuclearclassheatseekinganti-shipminedevicespamming. After this, he turned his ship around, and decided he was going to flee to the 800K-away-invisible-cloud-of-instadeath-with-no-ego-killing-bluemsg. I decided I wasn't going to deal with this stupidity and flew away.

I'd post proof but I deleted it

Now your Turn. Flares dont shot Liberty Corporations Unless they Attack Flares, We go not bounty on your head,No reason to open Fire, Unless Hired by a Rogue to kill you or a bounty placed in game on your head. Then we are allowed to burn you,Next time if you claim such thing saying that he did this and that,bring me the proof i will take care of people in my faction better. Otherwise, "LIBERTY"that way>>>You dont have proof?? don't Talk about it

Er...
USI is bountied by Rogues.

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[Abuzar]

Well we are not SFC nor LNs nor [LN] . We know when we ask [LN] for 1v1 fair fight, bah they dont care for it . Do they?? show me now a days. a big lame dear. I tried it, Response i got Just an Example with Couple of your Pilots:[LN]-Michale.Morse, hiring two freelancers to kill me with him,=LSF= calling SFC to pwn us,LPI cant kill us keep spamming Cd's and calling big ships to kill us , [LN] cant do better then that.

Now where is your FAIR fight policy when you see us alone,GAnk when you see us in pack "Have Mercy". Then Better look what you do . Not us

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[Lord Caedus]

One, learn how to spell. Two, I wasn't aware that saying "Hello Michael,you have a bounty on your head, I'm here to claim it." was a challenge to a one on one fight. Three, I assume your referring to that time those Doges chased you to Rochester, yeah I didn't pay them, they were after you cause you were bountied. Anyway, you have a nice day.

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[Durandal]

You're going on and about the [LN] ganking when I've yet to see any evidence of it, or any names. All you're doing is sitting here telling me Joe preferred snub fights, and so do I. You do realize we don't actually have any control over our indies though, right? If we tell them to stay out it doesn't mean they'll listen, and there isn't any rule we can use to enforce that.

If you see an [LN] member telling a cap to engage in a furball or taking bots from one however, that is a problem.

I really don't like people who play the cynic card after one bad experience. It is far easier and more productive to just go to the people who need to be talked to ([LN] HC), and say "Yo, this happened today, can you talk to the guy about it? Thanks."

You also have to understand that a lot of the [LN]'s new recruits aren't so skilled in the whole shooting thing, and while I'll be the first to tell you that the [LN] is a military faction and that I believe our members should be at least passable at it, that kind of thing takes time to teach, and basically what the flares do is roll around Liberty and keep them system dead, all day. See it from a newbie's perspective: It might just be a tiny bit demoralizing.

I'm not whining, or asking you to fly less, I'm just asking you to have a bit of understanding of the situation. If one of 'em gets out of line and throws a cap at you, tell me. So far I've yet to see that and until we, and we'll just continue seeing your behavior as an "I have to win" mentality, rather than a group of people who enjoy a fair brawl, win or lose.

[Abuzar]

Well Morse if you talk about Doges? I am gonna point it out now
1st: I was not in fight with you at all i was there when i pawned Gregor tanek
2nd: Doges came and started shoting me right after i killed tanek
3rd: You engaged with them,to gank me. Wasnt it a gank?? 2 already shoting you the 3rd one jumping in to gank? and asking them to kill him, you will get such amount if you kill him .

Justify it, i am sure i should have screens of it.
You are the one, Not me. You better know what i mean.

To 2nd Answer

Durandai I appreciate how you control, thing is we got targets ,we kill them for cash and as you said you have lots of new recruits then its your duty to teach them not ours, way you fight, way you do things in liberty because when our people are ganked we make it sure the same happens to those who did it.

As a simple Player i Like fighter brawls , hating cap spams as i saw SFC doing it having 2 [LN] on me with an LABC spamming missiles continuously, dont have have understanding with SFC?? they work under you ,dont they??

I believe if they dont , they never tend to work under any command but still they listen if [LN] Orders indies to stop shoting because in some ways they hurting their own people using torps spam, chainfire,flaks etc

If you can fix this problem i am sure in coming future we will prefer fighter brawl rather then a gank squad. G'day Gentlemen

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