Restrictions on capital ship use

[Bobmarley]

all those BS-kill-kill-BS topics smell like posthunt areas now since admins multiple times sayd NO to changes.

[Drake]

Real life question for you: Do you not obey the speed limit signs in your hometown? If a police officer orders you stop stop, do you comply? Do you pay taxes on your groceries? If you violate the laws of the government, are you punished? If you where carrying illegal commodities, and the authorities knew about it, would they attempt to arrest you? If you refused, would they use force? I could go on for miles.....anyhow, this part of your argument is not valid.

Why? Because when your in Rheinland, the laws of rheinland are enforced by the Rheinland authority, same for Liberty, Bretonia, Kusari and any other system or sector of space legitimatly controlled by a faction.

Solution? Overthrow the government! Sound crazy?....maybe, but it can be done.

Or, you can do it from within, join the faction. Rise through the ranks. Lobby for change. Create new policies.

I also don't drive around town in an APC or Abrams tank.

You merely reinforce my point: Why can't factions decide that certain classes of ships are illegal within their Zoi? Why can they decide that normally legal commodities are illegal within their space, and normally legal IDs are illegal within their space, but they can't decide that a giant piece of war machinery is illegal within their space?

[uspatriotsf]

I'd like to add that no matter what we do to restrict them, they will always remain a problem. Well, short of removing them from the game or putting them all on "Battlestar Lost" and only given by admins.

Im a fighter guy (for the most part) and it does irritate me to run into Capships everywhere I go, but what are you gonna do?

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[cmfalconer]

Im a fighter guy (for the most part) and it does irritate me to run into Capships everywhere I go, but what are you gonna do?

just constantly throw insults at them as they pass by. "Oh look, another independant capital ship. Man it'd be nice to see some of those new fighters around" or something like that. My pilots do that quite a bit.

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[Jinx]

if you roleplay that people flying a warship are powerful and sort of important people, you wouldn t go around and "throw insults" at them.

thats a sort of behaviour that is ... well, not very much in-role for a pilot that is flying a fighter and happens to fly pass a battleship.

of course, you could aswell roleplay it based on your own role, mind. flying a fighter does not make you any better. - or would you like it when people met you in midspace and insulted you? - for all you know is that they fly a capital ship - but you don t know what reason they have. who knows - maybe more reason to fly such a ship than you have to fly even a starflier.

try a bit more emphaty, flying around insulting people is as much roleplay as flying around blowing everything up - which means, no roleplay at all, no matter if you hide an insult in colourful terms that are sophisticated sci-fi talk.

if they violate the rules, you can write up a report. if they don t, what gives you the right to insult them then - unless you play a psycho that tends to insult every ship bigger than his. - but i do hope we don t have too many of such kind around.

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[Magoo!]

Yeah... Joe is right in page one. Along with Bulldog. I think the majority of us at least have a cruiser already. If we wanted to control this, all accounts its seems would have to get wiped to make a fresh slate of RP, else everybody will just be the same as they are now, saying, "I'm not going to delete my BS for you." OORP conflicts insue, etc. etc... And Bulldog for the fact that certain power-hungry people I think just want more control over the little man.

I'm torn between "Leave it" and "Guard systems"... I think I picked Guard systems though because that wouldn't effect most of us Disco Vets; but I honestly can't remember which I clicked. I don't think making them more expensive is a solution, simply because that would only lead people to trade longer and whatnot. In the end, they'll get what they want. If they're in Guard systems that pretty much forces them to get a tag with that faction, and then some... And the Rheinland BS is already almost 1 billion. 1.8 is the corruption cap if I'm not wrong, and if you make anything much more expensive... Well, you know.

I think that's all my thoughts for now... I may edit or post again if I think of anything else.

Adeiu.

[mjolnir]

I think the majority of us at least have a cruiser already.

*cough*
I have 16 ships now... apart from one transport all are bombers and smaller :$

I don't see any restricting short of placing them on lost battlestar working.

Requiring permission from dominant PC faction would be nice.... but hard to put to reality...


I would also say that prices of GBs and Cruisers should be slightly increased...


GBs to ~50mil
Cruisers to ~200
BCs to 400


EDIT: Btw.... what I really don't like is when some noob that just spend 3 days going NB-NT... buys his BS and expects [RM] players to listen to his orders... because he has bigger ship

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[Reise]

i voted for "make them more expensive"

you guys have no rights to tell another member what they can and can not fly.

as long as they follow the rules laid down by Discovery they are fine.

This is another example of bully boy tactics by members who think they should has something that no one else can have.

such a restriction will kill the fun for some while may stop a handfull of PvP abusers.

Sorry Guys this is silly.

Cheers

Agreed with this.

Voted fine as-is.

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Reise[Merc] (Mercenary, Orca) -- Raserei (Ageira Tech., GMG Miner)

[Fellow Hoodlum]

As for the use of "bully tactics," I find it interesting that discussion on the role a capship should play(and how its
use might be controlled) is viewed as bullying, yet Hoodlum's suggestion that we gang up on and drive off the
irresponsible players is acceptable as long as it is done in an RP manner.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could point out exactly where I quoted that little gem. Getting a tad tired
of members second guessing my thoughts on this, and how it should be dealt with.
If you think I inferred that, then you are a little deluded ... Read what you like into things, but do not use it
to re-inforce, or otherwise, your personal views.
Thanks ...

Hoodlum

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[Magoo!]

Eh heh... If you want to scroll through a list of probably 100 some + ships larger than a GB on the Battlestar, you have fun.:PI really don't see that as a plausible solution, and most certainly not RP. I don't think they'd have huge-dewlap scaffolds on their shipyards for just fixing a transport. Maybe building a ship? - but then this would conflict with the Guard system whatnot, which I still see as the best solution. Maybe since the other shipyards produce stuff like the Beatle and Prison Liner, it could still make sense.

I used to have 13 ships before one of my accounts got wiped. I only have 1 cruiser, so the rest are fighters too... But umm... I'll not get off topic.

-Edit- Oh, and lets not have any nonsense ID or license changes for 600 million credits that people like me will be driven mad over because if I try to make a passenger route to that one Orbital city, I'll most likely lag into a planet. I'd probably up and quit if this came about... All I want to do is fly around in my really bad cruiser and have fun. Not sit through countless hours of trading just so I can rightfully fly my ship again. A certain member of my household watched some religious video on some subject matter, ever since then my ping has been through the roof... For everything. It takes 7 seconds to load my home page (Google) and ping for another game is usually 100-6500. Yes, 6500.