Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID.

[Echo 7-7]

Can the current GC related RP have any chances of assisting people in providing a more logical population number?

Just asking because... the fact that GC is now under bombardment and all those stuff, it also brings easier excuses and justifications for coming up with new population theories

I would say no, given that the "excess" population shouldn't be there in the first place - as far as I'm aware neither the Corsairs nor the SCRA are busy comitting genocide.

Given ultra-low population density, one would assume that the bombardment of the planet (which I will assume is done with mass drivers/accelerator cannons, not nuclear or dirty weapons, which aren't widely used in Sirius) are more for the psychological and morale-breaking effect than they are for the precise destruction of hostile installations.

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[DarthBindo]

Can the current GC related RP have any chances of assisting people in providing a more logical population number?

Just asking because... the fact that GC is now under bombardment and all those stuff, it also brings easier excuses and justifications for coming up with new population theories

I would say no, given that the "excess" population shouldn't be there in the first place - as far as I'm aware neither the Corsairs nor the SCRA are busy comitting genocide.

Given ultra-low population density, one would assume that the bombardment of the planet (which I will assume is done with mass drivers/accelerator cannons, not nuclear or dirty weapons, which aren't widely used in Sirius) are more for the psychological and morale-breaking effect than they are for the precise destruction of hostile installations.

Heh. Heh Heh.
Not yet.

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gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|

[tothebonezone]

Sorry Bindo, but the Phantoms aren't around to M0X bomb entire planets anymore.

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[Agmen of Eladesor]

Wow - I saw this thread start yesterday but didn't look at it then because I was tired.

Now all I've managed to do is simply skip 8 pages because ... well, honestly, is it really worth reading all that garbage?

Not when we have Saronsen to sum things up for us:

this isn't about the ZA, you ball-scratching neanderthal. It's about Zoners, a group that doesn't have the organization nor the concentrated numbers of people, to be building Battleships at the numbers they do. In fact, they shouldn't really have giant ass battleships at all.

Don't get me wrong - back in the day when I was collecting battleships, I ended up buying one of these monstrosities myself. And in the last ... what, two years, I think ... I've owned this ship, I've been involved in PvP with it ... zero times. I've shot a few NPC's with it, but I'm one of those people who actually RP the damn thing as a mobile freeport.

Pretty obvious, too, since the name of the ship is Freeport.Mobile.Two . I've hauled disaster supplies and other stuff to support Doc and the TAZ with natural disasters, hung around to help during one of the assorted crises in Omega 3, and currently I'm sitting out to provide relief supplies - including additional religious and medical items - at Freeport 11 in Delta.

But that's because I play this game to RP - not strictly for PvP. Not knocking PvP - it IS a valid part of RP. It's just not the ONLY thing out there - which so many people that play this game can't quite seem to grasp between their rapidly decaying brain cells. (Hey, if Saronsen can get snarky - what the heck, I can too. I'm tired from working 60+ hours a week the last month, and no end in sight.)

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Daedric]

I've asked for this several times in the past. I was never given a firm answer, but whispers said the admin/dev team (at those times) didn't want to remove them because they've been around for so long and it would cause QQQQQQQQQ that they didn't want to deal with.

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[Sabru]

Wow - I saw this thread start yesterday but didn't look at it then because I was tired.

Now all I've managed to do is simply skip 8 pages because ... well, honestly, is it really worth reading all that garbage?

Not when we have Saronsen to sum things up for us:

this isn't about the ZA, you ball-scratching neanderthal. It's about Zoners, a group that doesn't have the organization nor the concentrated numbers of people, to be building Battleships at the numbers they do. In fact, they shouldn't really have giant ass battleships at all.

Don't get me wrong - back in the day when I was collecting battleships, I ended up buying one of these monstrosities myself. And in the last ... what, two years, I think ... I've owned this ship, I've been involved in PvP with it ... zero times. I've shot a few NPC's with it, but I'm one of those people who actually RP the damn thing as a mobile freeport.

Pretty obvious, too, since the name of the ship is Freeport.Mobile.Two . I've hauled disaster supplies and other stuff to support Doc and the TAZ with natural disasters, hung around to help during one of the assorted crises in Omega 3, and currently I'm sitting out to provide relief supplies - including additional religious and medical items - at Freeport 11 in Delta.

But that's because I play this game to RP - not strictly for PvP. Not knocking PvP - it IS a valid part of RP. It's just not the ONLY thing out there - which so many people that play this game can't quite seem to grasp between their rapidly decaying brain cells. (Hey, if Saronsen can get snarky - what the heck, I can too. I'm tired from working 60+ hours a week the last month, and no end in sight.)

to borrow from your post,



well said.

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[Black Widow]

HOOOO
LEEEEE
SHEEEEEEEEET

I make the mistake of going to sleep after a two day grind, and Black Widow starts making claims that peoples plans are backfiring and that the ZA are winning?

First off, this isn't about the ZA, you ball-scratching neanderthal. It's about Zoners, a group that doesn't have the organization nor the concentrated numbers of people, to be building Battleships at the numbers they do. In fact, they shouldn't really have giant ass battleships at all. I should go through every Zoner base in the game and total the populations.

Secondly, where did you learn how to form arguements? Fresh out of middleschool? You have contributed nothing besides, what every other ZA here has, and that is NO U. You, again, are failing to prove to the community that you guys should have capital ships, because when you are forced to give us any reasons why, the only things you can do consist of "WELL THE LIBERTY NAVY IS LOLWUTTS" and "BUT NOMADS".

But please, continue trying to tell me how you guys need your battleships for defending yourselves against what should be your allies.

Also, need I remind you again that you shouldn't be shot at by your allies?

Now you listen here you bone-head, this has all been about the ZA why well read of of the post you just said which I have underlined in white, its all about the ZA and how you want to stop them having caps or that they have justify using them to you?

Maybe wearing that helmet on your peanut too long has squashed your brain or affected your memory but it sound very much like a ZA rant to me.

If it was not about the ZA this thread would not exist as no one would have a reason to mention this.

As said before your argument is flawed since the Phoenix don't even agree with your point of view everything you say now, will be taken as null and void.

I respond in this first instance, by slapping you with this Wet Fish:

[Echo 7-7]

If it was not about the ZA this thread would not exist as no one would have a reason to mention this.

The sheer arrogance and self-centred attitude expressed by ZA (and the defenders thereof) is absolutely extraordinary. Numerous Discovery veterans have posted stating that this issue has persisted for many years. The ZA are only the latest in a series of self-entitled Zoner factions still bearing the delusion that they have, and inexplicably deserve to keep, top-tier military capability.

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[Black Widow]

I'm not a ZA

[Savas]

Well I think it's safe to say this thread has officially gone to hell, gg.

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