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Bombers VS Capital Ships, Balance Needed

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Bombers VS Capital Ships, Balance Needed
Offline Lonely_Ghost
10-07-2013, 09:33 PM,
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(10-07-2013, 09:27 PM)Veygaar Wrote: I once did 8 on 1 in a Cruiser and won. 6 snubs and 2 GBs vs me. Hell I've tried 11 snubs on me and it went pretty good for a while...

People seriously need to learn how to fly their fat ships.

What cruiser you had? Scylla/Tresher/BretDessy/AI ?

And yes, skill gives you additional chances to survive+ tacticks. And lucky to have unskilled oponents too. Big Grin
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Offline Makc_RU
10-07-2013, 09:35 PM,
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Hold up, 6 bombers vs 1 BS and BS won? I don't want to sound negative, but i smell bull.

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Offline Pilip
10-07-2013, 09:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-07-2013, 09:57 PM by Pilip.)
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(10-07-2013, 09:06 PM)Lonely_Ghost Wrote: I can understand every battleship owner, that it should not be ok, that 3 bombers would be able to destroy a battleship. However... game's limit gives no other chances.
Just imagine, that single battleship would be worth fighting a dozen bombers? And you have 4 such ships, but they are hostile. So what it would be? Logging 6 battleships, or dozen of cruisers or half of server should log their bombers to deal with just 4 battleships? Confused

Answer :No ! be cause there shouldnt be so much availability of caps to just anyone so that they field 7 valors at once or whatever!! someone up was saying: hey finding elite pvpers in order to have an eficient escort...yea from what i've seen here those pvpers must be absolutely PROs,where should i find those pros? on player list?No, that's only about skype teenie omg friendship;that's how disco works and the issue about caps and lack of escorts and mostly no players around...; now tell me how should i suppose to find those if all the time is them the main enemy be cause: hey is so much fun to pew noobs which dont know yet how disco works...; i started to see the game and RP as a joke as soon as i found out that is mostly the same pvpers that are mostly all factions LN, xenos,reavers ..etc...so i discovered that there are really no Sides to take there are only the skype ganks.....and that was the moment when i started to focus on cap fights..., i started to get at least decent if not more but hey..the game limits me greatly; so it's been about a year since i too log chars only for not getting deleted and usually for some small conn pew; i bet there are left only a bunch of old names who care more or less, the sad life skype trolls and the mentioned fresh newbies who have no clue of how the game really is; and more i have a ideea: how about we give to any type of bombers 2 torpedoes slots and also 2 snacs plus 8 energy weapon slots!? OR remove caps from the game and disco devs admit that you have failed greatly at this..!? in doing this there will be no more fun for the snubwhores either and the game will return to 40 players...vanilla...and so on! i think is a great ideea
(and for the tireless mouths who keep repeating : hey bomber is just fine OP as it is in order to discourage the capspam...well i was wondering do you fellas see any change?((past ex. hellfires, torpedoes..etc troll squads)) NOP there are still or even more maybe, 7 valors , dreads etc; this is whi the logical conclusion that comes up is that you actually enjoy the situation about the capspam...in order to have a reason to keep saying at every 30sec: OMG lol...same repetitive retard words) no offense really.
Please dont bother mumbling about whinning again cause i dont engage if i'm not sure of 90% chances to win, just saying coz i saw upper that is quite popular to mistake just everyone with a different point of view for ,,whinning,,; involvement usually causes that.
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Offline Fluffyball
10-07-2013, 09:46 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-07-2013, 10:10 PM by Fluffyball.)
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(10-06-2013, 12:25 AM)yil Wrote:
(10-06-2013, 12:13 AM)KAWISH-ALI Wrote: Capital ships are bees against bombers, please introduce a missile launcher class for caps faster then current missiles fast like cruise disrupt and can easily down bombers , i mean capitals are capitals cannot be destroyed by small crafts, its really annoying when you are hopeless and cant do a $%^ against small annoying craft. really . thanks .
Hi Kawish-Al,
You hit the nail right on the head so as to say. I have caps with MKVIII s and I cannot agree with you more.
The question is how do we get these missile launchers in the game,any ideas????
Thank you for bringing this important subject to everyones attention.

yil:Smile)
If you go without fighter escort, do not blame the game or come up with "oh this is so unbalanced". Bombers are just for killing caps, like I've wrote a lot of times in this topic. Period.

P.S. Think of goddamn tactic people.

(10-07-2013, 12:55 AM)Veygaar Wrote:
(10-06-2013, 07:57 PM)Toji-Haku Wrote: I just pointed out scenario, where two caps meets, but one cap has bomber on its side. Which one wins then? The outcome is simple, the situation favours the side with additional bomber.

Does.... not.... compute.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mR4jkR7X8


Learn cap skill folks, 1 BS can take out or escape 3-4 bombers. 1 good cruiser can do even better. People think that just because they spent a ton of money they should be "auto awesome." When in fact is still takes as much practice as learning to be an ace on a snub, you just gotta put in the time baby!

I rather thought about the scenario, where bomber with two torpedoes would take some shield here, making way to the delicious hull easier for the ally cap. Just that, even if bomber is destroyed after two-three hits, it's minor advantage for ally cap. Minor, but still advantage.

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Offline Lonely_Ghost
10-07-2013, 10:09 PM,
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(10-07-2013, 09:36 PM)Pilip Wrote: Answer :No ! be cause there shouldnt be so much availability of caps to just anyone so that they field 7 valors at once or whatever!! someone up was saying: hey finding elite pvpers in order to have an eficient escort...yea from what i've seen here those pvpers must be absolutely PROs,where should i find those pros? on player list?No, that's only about skype teenie omg friendship;that's how disco works and the issue about caps and lack of escorts and mostly no players around...; now tell me how should i suppose to find those if all the time is them the main enemy be cause: hey is so much fun to pew noobs which dont know yet how disco works...; i started to see the game and RP as a joke as soon as i found out that is mostly the same pvpers that are mostly all factions LN, xenos,reavers ..etc...so i discovered that there are really no Sides to take there are only the skype ganks.....and that was the moment when i started to focus on cap fights..., i started to get at least decent if not more but hey..the game limits me greatly; so it's been about a year since i too log chars only for not getting deleted and usually for some small conn pew; i bet there are left only a bunch of old names who care more or less, the sad life skype trolls and the mentioned fresh newbies who have no clue of how the game really is; and more i have a ideea: how about we give to any type of bombers 2 torpedoes slots and also 2 snacs plus 8 energy weapon slots!? OR remove caps from the game and disco devs admit that you have failed greatly at this..!? in doing this there will be no more fun for the snubwhores either and the game will return to 40 players...vanilla...and so on! i think is a great ideea
(and for the tireless mouths who keep repeating : hey bomber is just fine OP as it is in order to discourage the capspam...well i was wondering do you fellas see any change?((past ex. hellfires, torpedoes..etc troll squads)) NOP there are still or even more maybe, 7 valors , dreads etc; this is whi the logical conclusion that comes up is that you actually enjoy the situation about the capspam...in order to have a reason to keep saying at every 30sec: OMG lol...same repetitive retard words) no offense really.
Please dont bother mumbling about whinning again cause i dont engage if i'm not sure of 90% chances to win, just saying coz i saw upper that is quite popular to mistake just everyone with a different point of view for ,,whinning,,; involvement usually causes that.

Okay, I understand your point, and it has sence. Unfortunatly, it's already too late, to make some global changes, which would impowe, or not situation with capital ships. Restricting capital ships to offical faction only- at least, every offical faction should be re-viewed.
Re-design capital ships- but Im afraid, this shall take too long, and ofcrs, there will be players, who shall dislike it.
Lots of things could be re-made, however, we have caps, like they are now. This is bad, and good in same time.
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Offline Fluffyball
10-07-2013, 10:12 PM,
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(10-07-2013, 10:09 PM)Lonely_Ghost Wrote: (...)Restricting capital ships to offical faction only- at least, every offical faction should be re-viewed.(...)
I proposed that once or twice. Admins and devs really should restrict caps.

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Offline belarusich
10-07-2013, 10:14 PM,
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Yessssss, less caps, less players, we dont need them!

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Offline Veygaar
10-07-2013, 10:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-07-2013, 10:20 PM by Veygaar.)
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(10-07-2013, 09:33 PM)Lonely_Ghost Wrote: What cruiser you had? Scylla/Tresher/BretDessy/AI ?

And yes, skill gives you additional chances to survive+ tacticks. And lucky to have unskilled oponents too. Big Grin
Oh they weren't "unskilled." And it was a LSC, I've done similar numbers in the Thanatos.

(10-07-2013, 09:35 PM)Makc_RU Wrote: Hold up, 6 bombers vs 1 BS and BS won? I don't want to sound negative, but i smell bull.

Who said that?! I know Charos has done 5 bombers on 1 and won. Dunno, never heard more than that.

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Offline Pilip
10-07-2013, 10:24 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-07-2013, 10:27 PM by Pilip.)
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(10-07-2013, 10:09 PM)Lonely_Ghost Wrote:
(10-07-2013, 09:36 PM)Pilip Wrote:

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Okay, I understand your point, and it has sence. Unfortunatly, it's already too late, to make some global changes, which would impowe, or not situation with capital ships. Restricting capital ships to offical faction only- at least, every offical faction should be re-viewed.
Re-design capital ships- but Im afraid, this shall take too long, and ofcrs, there will be players, who shall dislike it.
Lots of things could be re-made, however, we have caps, like they are now. This is bad, and good in same time.

I think there is no need for such complications like limiting caps only for officials, is discriminatory and a lot of players will get upset really ! How about implementing Connecticut Only a command just like the betatestcash for getting a cap of choice just for Conn practice; stations in conn will have cap weaponry available and once a while(2 months or 6 or....) admins will simply test some players...(they normally pew incognito anyway) and this is how 2 Bs go available for liberty, 2 for rheinland, 2 for kusari...and so on; and there u go, you dont have caps everywhere nor this mockery of so called ballance ! Done
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Offline Veygaar
10-07-2013, 10:32 PM,
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Or just... learn to fly them right? Cause they rock already?

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