(10-09-2013, 08:18 AM)Death.RunningVerminator Wrote: Is that Snake as in Snak3?
I'm simply snake, not snak3 thats someone else, also I'm not Solid.Snake , I'm just Snake :| anyhow thanks for all the replies again :3. Also the Houses might be the Alliance but, keep in mind, are they seriously "still" the Alliance? No way, they're fighting each other like they've been the worst enemy since beginning, they wont be the Alliance if they still gonna fight each other, with this unification objective this faction will rise :3 Of course together with the power of the community, which I'm grateful for the replies, even to those which "QQ" (for those who think they're "QQ" ing allthough I've always respected their opinions, no problem)
(10-09-2013, 12:49 PM)SummerMcLovin Wrote: I meant simply to extend it to a broader range of civilian ships and perhaps BW tech as well, same with civilian weapons rather than just two types of codenames. "It looks cool and similar to the Waran" isn't really an RP reason to stick with the RT and Waran, but if you were just buying them then why not the other ones available? Faction tech you could later acquire by contacting those who own it.
As I said, there isn't a lot to do with your goal (same with the Judges, who 'RPed' internally, gathered and trained in big groups, talked to people about law) as neither the SCRA or the Nomads are particularly active to be massively dangerous enemies - plus there are many factions that shoot both anyway. Turning towards fighting Gallia is seen as some sort of stock option without pissing off the other houses, but there are already a large amount of active groups and more inactive ones who do this.
I know you weren't considering the working directly for Gallia option, I just suggested it as something that isn't already going on in many places already. Non-aggression is going to leave you with very few enemies for in-game action, so you're kind of left with talking to GRN on the forums a couple of times before they say "No, we are kind of set on the idea after 750 years of planning".
Tel, I suppose that depends on what position of power the US has in a couple of centuries time in the FL universe. They could conceivably have lost their top dog status, becoming something on par with a sort of EU superstate, while both will have gathered together under the Alliance banner to face the increasingly-powerful Coalition of nations with their Pact - all would be fairly similar in strength.
As for the Alliance having a "branch" in Sirius, we refer to them as Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari, and Rheinland these days.
(10-09-2013, 10:09 AM)Sikki.Nyxx Wrote: But the biggest Problem what you see are Serverrules,.... and the Incoming QQ
Obviously we are considering only possible combinations within the server rules.
And DRV, this is a different Snake.
With all do respect, don't count the K'Hara and SCRA out yet as I'm part of SCRA and still trying to get into K'Hara myself. The beta release just gave everyone a shock, because of so many ooRPers, wait till after Rollback, I'm sure they'll get active again! Also as many know, Manhattan, somehow is considered as the Heart of Sirius and who owns it? Liberty. Tel aviv got a point there, but that doesn't mean we should care less about the other Houses. Like I've mentioned, the Houses wont be considered as the Alliance if they still gonna fight each other and simply destroy whats left from the Alliance, we want to prevent this, this faction. Shipline can be discussed, realy... I just wanted to have something unique you know. Like when people see those Ships and the combination of the CODEs that instead of calling us simple "Freelancers" that they'd recognize us as this faction. Cause I remember many times that people called other factions which use a Pirate ID and so many different ships "Pirate back off, this is not your fight" allthough that faction was just unlawfull and not real pirates. Also I'm still worried that people will always call us "Freelancers stay out of this" because of allowing people to use so many different ships. Like I mentioned before the CTE shipline makes sense to me, since they have a connection with the flag. Noticed the Eagle on the flag? Yah, the CTE shipline, check it out, Hawk, Falcon, Eagle.
(10-09-2013, 04:42 PM)Snake Wrote: Also the Houses might be the Alliance but, keep in mind, are they seriously "still" the Alliance? No way, they're fighting each other like they've been the worst enemy since beginning, they wont be the Alliance if they still gonna fight each other.
It's like hundreds of years have passed.
Things change.
Alliances too.
I bet "the alliance" ended with the first colonies.
Seeing as it takes a few generations to get colonies up and running, much less to the degree that the home systems/capitol planets are developed. I could speculate that they didn't have much contact in those years.
Just see what happened to the hispania, it got off-course and now every hispanic pilot is some sort of cardamine trafficking pirate. Well, maybe not every one.
And if you just take the stock freelancer lore into account, the reason they got so split up in recent years/generations is because of the nomad invasion slowly getting humanity to fight itself.
Or did I not get the right memo?
One of these days, there will be a clever, stylish and/or funny signature here.
This is still not that day, however.
(10-09-2013, 04:19 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: And you still have neo Nazis yet no Nazi country.
Yup, but the Alliance is still there, fractured, but it's still there.
The Alliance is there, sleeping, and its sleeping pills are the wars among the colonies, and the big noise that will wake it up is supposed to be Snake's group.
I felt poetic today
(10-09-2013, 04:42 PM)Snake Wrote: Also the Houses might be the Alliance but, keep in mind, are they seriously "still" the Alliance? No way, they're fighting each other like they've been the worst enemy since beginning, they wont be the Alliance if they still gonna fight each other.
It's like hundreds of years have passed.
Things change.
Alliances too.
I bet "the alliance" ended with the first colonies.
Seeing as it takes a few generations to get colonies up and running, much less to the degree that the home systems/capitol planets are developed. I could speculate that they didn't have much contact in those years.
Just see what happened to the hispania, it got off-course and now every hispanic pilot is some sort of cardamine trafficking pirate. Well, maybe not every one.
And if you just take the stock freelancer lore into account, the reason they got so split up in recent years/generations is because of the nomad invasion slowly getting humanity to fight itself.
Or did I not get the right memo?
Yah the nomad invasion getting humanity to fight itself, and yet people talking about Nomads beeing a no-threat? Gotta be kidding
(10-09-2013, 04:51 PM)Kampanom Wrote: The Alliance is there, sleeping, and its sleeping pills are the wars among the colonies, and the big noise that will wake it up is supposed to be Snake's group.
I felt poetic today
You got my point, we might be the ones which finaly wake em up from those nonsense wars ,this, I guess, is a final awakening of the "Sleeper" Ships
(10-09-2013, 04:19 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: And you still have neo Nazis yet no Nazi country.
Yup, but the Alliance is still there, fractured, but it's still there.
The Alliance is there, sleeping, and its sleeping pills are the wars among the colonies, and the big noise that will wake it up is supposed to be Snake's group.
I felt poetic today
Give this man an artistic stipend, whatever country he lives in.
One of these days, there will be a clever, stylish and/or funny signature here.
This is still not that day, however.
(10-09-2013, 04:19 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: And you still have neo Nazis yet no Nazi country.
This actually seems to be in my favour on that argument.
For the history of why they're no longer in an alliance, Dratai is correct that contact wasn't established for quite some time. It was just over 100 years after Manhattan-fall for the Einstein to reach Rheinland from Liberty (given they had the DK-inspired engines), then another ten to get to Bretonia from there and twelve to reach Kusari. While it dropped FTL comm buoys on its journey to allow contact to continue, it was almost another 100 years or so before the jump gates allowed any serious sense of external trade and about the same again before the trade lanes brought it to similar levels we have today.
That's around 300 years for houses to develop, and while they were friendly enough for most of the time (before the campaign, the 80 Years War was the only serious conflict in Sirius) they were not interested in becoming a large superstate again, with little need to.
It was only the recent discovery and development of the Tau Sector and Nomad research/technology that caused the Bretonia-Kusari and Liberty-Rheinland wars respectively - neither of these problems will go away any time soon, and neither will the power of Gallia. Another group telling them not to fight isn't going to do all that much. As was said, if you focus on one house too much you'll be slowly disliked by their opposite. Not really to do with Nomad influence after the war was over, humanity will always find something to kill each other over.
I didn't mean anything against the SCRA or K'Hara, simply that they are single factions compared to a house of them to have activity to work with.
For tech, fairly sure it'll be your tag that makes people recognise you! Either way, "generic ship with codes" isn't exactly a unique presence on the server when we've got every Freelancer who signed up to a bounty board ever...
Oh and for this:
(10-09-2013, 04:47 PM)Dratai Wrote: Just see what happened to the hispania, it got off-course and now every hispanic pilot is some sort of cardamine trafficking pirate. Well, maybe not every one.
Less "off-course" and more "engines blown to pieces by Coalition saboteurs". "Not every one" is definitely correct, given about half of them went to Crete instead of Malta and are now known as the Corsairs.
Cleaned up off-topic posts. Keep the posts to feedback of the Sirius Alliance only. Don't let it happen again. You want to argue like children? Go to the Flood or a playground and play who has the "big boy" pants.
As I've mentioned before, I think the CTE fits it together with "Main Ships" Ravens Talon, Waran, Wasupu, Ahoudori, Civ Gunboat. CTE would be, Starblazer, Hawk, Falcon, Eagle and Roc. Well, the Codes wont be a matter then 8| also Civic guns. We'll have the Communitys vote in this.
(10-09-2013, 04:19 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: And you still have neo Nazis yet no Nazi country.
This actually seems to be in my favour on that argument.
For the history of why they're no longer in an alliance, Dratai is correct that contact wasn't established for quite some time. It was just over 100 years after Manhattan-fall for the Einstein to reach Rheinland from Liberty (given they had the DK-inspired engines), then another ten to get to Bretonia from there and twelve to reach Kusari. While it dropped FTL comm buoys on its journey to allow contact to continue, it was almost another 100 years or so before the jump gates allowed any serious sense of external trade and about the same again before the trade lanes brought it to similar levels we have today.
That's around 300 years for houses to develop, and while they were friendly enough for most of the time (before the campaign, the 80 Years War was the only serious conflict in Sirius) they were not interested in becoming a large superstate again, with little need to.
It was only the recent discovery and development of the Tau Sector and Nomad research/technology that caused the Bretonia-Kusari and Liberty-Rheinland wars respectively - neither of these problems will go away any time soon, and neither will the power of Gallia. Another group telling them not to fight isn't going to do all that much. As was said, if you focus on one house too much you'll be slowly disliked by their opposite. Not really to do with Nomad influence after the war was over, humanity will always find something to kill each other over.
I didn't mean anything against the SCRA or K'Hara, simply that they are single factions compared to a house of them to have activity to work with.
For tech, fairly sure it'll be your tag that makes people recognise you! Either way, "generic ship with codes" isn't exactly a unique presence on the server when we've got every Freelancer who signed up to a bounty board ever...
Oh and for this:
(10-09-2013, 04:47 PM)Dratai Wrote: Just see what happened to the hispania, it got off-course and now every hispanic pilot is some sort of cardamine trafficking pirate. Well, maybe not every one.
Less "off-course" and more "engines blown to pieces by Coalition saboteurs". "Not every one" is definitely correct, given about half of them went to Crete instead of Malta and are now known as the Corsairs.
Yes, much of what you say is true, just to clean my reputation - I was saying that it is completely ok to invent an "alliance movement" comprised by.. a,b,c - perhaps many people still believe in the unity of the past and who therefor group up and start.. doing.. what they are supposed to do - i just wouldn't dismiss it just because there are "houses".
thats someone else, also I'm not Solid.Snake , I'm just Snake :| anyhow thanks for all the replies again :3. Also the Houses might be the Alliance but, keep in mind, are they seriously "still" the Alliance? No way, they're fighting each other like they've been the worst enemy since beginning, they wont be the Alliance if they still gonna fight each other, with this unification objective this faction will rise :3 Of course together with the power of the community, which I'm grateful for the replies, even to those which "QQ" (for those who think they're "QQ" ing allthough I've always respected their opinions, no problem)
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