Where're the Corsairs?

[Curios]

aye the implementation of putting omicron 81 in between tau 37 and alpha confirms the devs are on crack

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Also Lambda - I was all "wtf" when I didn't found a Theta on it's respectful place, but instead, some stupid system I was hating all healthfully in 4.86. Now they decided to put it at the place where you can't ignore it's existence. For god's sake - are you serious? It's all about going back to the clam that devs were aiming at "reviving" sigma activity. Yea, sure, I see.

Also Leeds hole. First it run away to the system border and now it's gone completely. So sairs need to hang around Cambridge or to fly though all the O47 and O49 - both the systems no one need - into the Dublin. No thanks, flying for hundreds of klicks on cruise doesn't cut into my understanding of fun.

Concerning the systems my suggestion was always simple - give vanilla layout, omg. Maybe instead of stupid o47, o50, o49, etc we'll just have a, let's say, Dublin - Cambridge hole? Might justify the Molly base there at least. (And don't forget to put Leeds hole at where you stole it from, heloooo)

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[FallenKnight]

2.1 Bretonia. Well, honestly there was always a lot of mutual OORP dislike between Bretonia and Corsair players and I, myself, one day found I don't want to go to Bretonia because it doesn't pays out. We're playing for fun and I see no fun in Bretonia. Bretonia players managed to fail in providing any sense of healthy gameplay to anyone hostile to their lawful factions so I'm still staying away from

I see you speak by your point of view as |sails member. It saddens me that "Corsairs" are gone but NOT |sails. Benitez were the true corsairs and TBH|. I am not very familiar with whole corsair elders and their fleets but these 2 factions provided best experience in terms of Fair play/Fun/RP/PVP events.

During 4.85 you forced BAF players to simply not bother logging and being overganked by your armadas of full solaris osiris and 10 + snubs. I am totally sure most people back then NOT only from BAF would agree you guys really pulled the lion's tail, which later - of course - would lead to counter gank (Even the old leaders were unable to STOP newbies and vets to do gank you because you simply ganked them too many times and they were pissed)

@"managed to fail in providing healthy gameplay" - ...spoken from a true Sail...Considering most people really hated you guys - the understanding is mutual.

@"we play for fun and I see no fun in Bretonia" - true, we did our best to not allow you bring 10 solaris osiris and hunt down 3 templars before they dock on Essex, followed by "sissy" verbal abuse by your good old fellow Sina (I really need to find these hilarious images). Your OORP hatred representation in 80% of the encounters with BAF| were more than enough to cut the string of understanding and totally put in a grave any possible good relations. Sadly you were not the only problem...I admit there were many things done by both sides...but you simply begun the circle of hatred.

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Discovery Bridges[Feedback] Baron Piett[Biography]

[Curios]

@FallenKnight

Funny it's coming from a guy who was flying Battleship all the time. I still remember your attempts to pvp my lone merc sabre with Dirk being accompanied by Outcast snub near the stationed baf cap, yea, sure, hello.

But let's be honest - as I said - it's two edges sword. I, myself, was flying alone for most of my time duo to my time zone. When I'm playing Europe is still at work so not much of a company. So I'm speaking on behalf of my own.

Actually I left Sails because of the reason you mentioned - was trying to make them fight fair but was told that I'm not right. Well, okay - doesn't really matter now since Sails have died out successfully. The Bretland had some people I'v enjoyed to fight against - it was some BAF, MM~ and others. Old players mostly. However those people got pissed by the BAF majority and left - being part of the complete gank leaves a bad taste yn.

However I can also say that many people here different understandings of the term "gank" so I assume we're talking about the different matters.

For me fight is fair if equal amount of snubs is used against the equal amount of snubs. No matter the skill. But I see a lot of attempts of putting the "skill" as a balance param. Funny enough - it's stupid at best.

Good luck flying your battleship.

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@"we play for fun and I see no fun in Bretonia" - true, we did our best to not allow you bring 10 solaris osiris and hunt down 3 templars before they dock on Essex, followed by "sissy" verbal abuse by your good old fellow Sina (I really need to find these hilarious images). Your OORP hatred representation in 80% of the encounters with BAF| were more than enough to cut the string of understanding and totally put in a grave any possible good relations. Sadly you were not the only problem...I admit there were many things done by both sides...but you simply begun the circle of hatred.

WOW, and you think the respectful Bretonia factions have failed just at that moment? That is not correct for it started before you even came to the server - you've probably missed how it started and how it went ballistic. A lot of people was trying to play nice at Bretonia but gave up on being greeted with poor-arse attitude. The last attempt of changing things was done by Dieter but as I remember well he failed and trashed the idea down.

And then it's we are who sank the damn think. Sure thing. Every time I'll fight against BAF that don't want to fight unless have an overwhelming numbers, withbattleships to feed snubs if possible, against a couple of VHFs I'll remember your truly wise words that it's I am, personally, who forced the whole BAF to solarisdirk everyone around in Bretonia. What a real honor.

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[FallenKnight]

Actually I left Sails because of the reason you mentioned - was trying to make them fight fair but was told that I'm not right. Well, okay - doesn't really matter now since Sails have died out successfully.

I think that is more than enough. You admit that |sails were not fighting fair, same like the other side have stated. Well that answers the question.

In first place - I posted my above answer because you wrote a provocation towards BAF| faction. I dont plan to turn this in to discussion between us both and force a mod to lock it but since you continue to provoke and now point at me I will add one more respond:

- My whole interactions with you were primary with your Remilia Scarlet (which was rly good char in Rp and superior to PVP). Sadly most of these interactions, indeed I was in my old brick. Nevertheless I see no reason for you to remind me of my foolish mistakes in a PERIOD where I begun this game after being given a lesson how RP by Govedo himself
- Secondly, I am sure you know that but I guess I have to repeat it - in BAF| (old version) you had to fly and RP as snub for more than year to get captain. I play BAF| since 5 years and I think I did my best to build my rank and earn official status for the brick - which later forced me to go in to more "political" RP, which also is tied with being RP-ing from the bridge instead a snub. Well that was my RP and I think its not good to come from anyone to order around how ppl should RP, with what ship and when, right?
-In the end - if anyone from BAF would read your comment...they are probably laughing because, well - QCA was opened by me and duck, to train cadets...in snubs (lol if you want but we did a good attempt). All that plus many occasions just so I can become better in a snub...and one day I did but I simply HATE snubs in the way they are. Call it personal preference. The good side of disco is not the ship but the people you RP with, the community and overall feeling when RP-ing. I think we are done here, unless you want to move this thread forward in to something else (And no...I am not provoking you to do it )
(ps: I dont fly any ship right now due to RL reasons which dont bother you)

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Discovery Bridges[Feedback] Baron Piett[Biography]

[Curios]

Well, as I said right at the start - it's two edged situation. I'm not saying Sairs are all perfect and stuff. However I didn't noticed much of attempts from the opposite side to even try when the situation is different. I see it as one of the reasons for the server's rotten smell that appeared because people like to generalize and if some freaks from one side annoys the other then it's time to roflstop every single player under same flag. As for my attention to exactly Bretonia - it's because, from my pov, that was the place I had most of the negative taste at. Other places weren't perfect but Bretonia was the worst. Now it might be different because of the overall degrade - but for me it doesn't matter - I gave up attempts of looking for a nice fellas to pew and play with and simply doing some none-pvp gameplay, namely trader escorting where I can find my share of RP and interactions.

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[Curios]

Frak it, it's off topic. Now let's get back to the ideas of how to improve things.

So again - why we need O49,50,47? No one is using that world's butt - except for 49 maybe - but it's mostly because it had a trade routes going though it - now it might be different. I'd simply cut those systems away and make the Cambridge <-> Dublin hole with reverting all the system changes to the vanilla state.

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[Crowbar]

I'll jump in here...
As a player who has played Corsairs over past years,I've seen good and bad times for Sairs..
And these are moust likely the worst..
I still do my usaual routine,smuggling artifacts to Trafalgar and Hawaii,sometimes even to Kabuchiko..
Now mainly to Hawaii,other routes are way too long and boring.
And pirate from time to time,and I'm always solo...dangerous enough..
And over past month i've seen very few new players that are interested in playing Corsiars..they simply wan't to try out out ships and tech,and then quit..
I find my self being alone in moust systems under Sair control,few encounters in Omegas are not even remotley enough to say that we have a healthy player base..
I agree with others that changes must be made,particulary in maping...
Those connections between system that are vital for Sairs are simply too long and have done more damage than good..
This is just piece of my mind...there are other things but they are more related to tech problems..

[leonidos]

1) Pls fix the tractor problem ASAP
.................Missions that give money as they are not working much lots of people quit playing in gamma
2) Pls Replace the high lvl missions in Other bases of gamma.
.................Low lvl missions can be played in omega 5 where it should be
3) Pls Pls Pls remove unnecessary buffer systems that forcing people to go through there
.................They can be optional route but forcing is not good not fun, not at all

[Lonely_Ghost]

I'd say- better put easy missions to Crete bar, but some tough, at Skiros and Tripy. Same idea can be made on Alpha- Valencia- Ibiza.
Launch from planets on certain battleships (Legate is one of them, Ranceur, not sure about it) quite painfull. Snubs and may be gunboats can pick up there relatively easy missions to earn rep, ir kill 20-40 mins.

And....again. Route is to long. I remember flying on my Sair char from Gamma to Kusari via Sigmas took me some time. I actually went to WC, made crap there, very generously washed my hands, went to kitchen, made few sandwiches, bouiled water for a tea.

Also, to Curios.

Some system indeed can be removed, (we have been told, systems CAN'T BE REMOVED) or at leaste, merged. I say for Omega 47. It's not a massive battlefield any longer, and Jumpholes can be moved closer to each other. Same about Omega 49.

[Hidamari]

why are you both pretending there was no hate. lol, im not bothered, i hate corsairs, I still miss them though, they are a VERY necessary evil, generating much activity, great pews, and striking fear in the hearts of all they meet.

I want them back tbh.

id rather fight 1000 corsairs than put up with Gallia, its ships, their accent, or the storyline being steamrolled over you.

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