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[Pel]

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Im sure that there are other factions you can pick and harras.

Harrass the Gaians!

It makes no sense that they have such sleek, svelte ship designs when they're just a rag-tag bunch of college dropouts and asylum escapees off their meds!

And the Mollys, they get what-- Rogue hand me downs? The Bundschuh have to pick through the Borderworlds scrapyards for their Switchblades and Sabres.

They don't even have a lucrative cardamine connection like the GC! The cardi trade, illicit drift racing and their covert escort-assassin services alone could justify the Chrysanthemum's sleek craft, but what funds the Gaians? hydroponics and green energy? They should be flying the Bretonian analogue of a VW bus.

Knock them back into Griffins and Eagles!

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[Doria]

the lore that might be messed up - which was made up by the factions? ( like can doc holiday still RP med one, or can osi still RP the contruction of the nephilim class? ) - or are you in fact more concerned about the stats.

In my case, the faction RP that might get messed up. There are lots of cases I could list, besides the Med Force One, like the aquilon OSI rented to delevop and test our first jumpdrive (it always was an indie ship, but still its our RP), or the Persephones (really, change its model? it would be a shame).

Wanting to lower the number of lolwut capships around is a goal that I agree, not only zoner ones but a lot of other factions need control too, but simply removing them/changing class of the ships is not nice, let at least the officials and some indies that want to apply for a SRP keep their ships, why not? This way no one's RP will be messed up.

So, what will happen with those ships and the RP around them?

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[xiphos]

Im sure that there are other factions you can pick and harras.

Sorry, even after this possible change of ships, the Zoner's would still have enough shiny toys to play/RP with. More than many other already 'harrased' factions.

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[xiphos]

let at least the officials and some indies that want to apply for a SRP keep their ships, why not?

SRP's are the solution. For every BS on this server. Just my opinion.

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[t0l]

Did you just put a dogma in there and said that the nephilim is a colony ship ? Im sorry but just because you change a ships description every version and just because it has a "colony-ship" stigma doesnt make it a colony-ship. And I have plenty of evidence to slash your dogma, not least - the tens of rps that are being done on it. You on the one hand attempt to make sense of things about zoners, but you have carefully airbrushed my arguement in a different thread - when I have continued to say that liberty should be nerfed, but ofcourse you wouldn't do that, because sense is sense only when you want it to be.

Im sure that there are other factions you can pick and harras.

do you actually care about zoner rp

because from what im hearing you seem to care more about an actual battleship to shoot things

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[Divine]

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If you don't even know the original intent and lore about the ship you so eagerly try to defend, then you better stop it right here and take the exit.
It's not even funny any more in any way how you massacre lore-content to have it fit your very own perceptions.
It's not that you took what was given at first and evolved it from there because of what you're now complaining so loudly. You just, ever to begin with, made up your very personal view about what this particular ship represents and from there on, you build your current complaint as it gets removed.

Echo summed it up quite nicely, what this ship ever was supposed to be.

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[Moberg]

@Tel

Actually, the Zoner ships in certain infocards about the ship type on your scanner (the ones you see when those ships are present as NPCs) are called names that don't have any aggressive connotation.

Nephilim is 'Zoner Colony Ship'.
Fearless is 'Zoner Q-ship'.
Corvo is 'Zoner Explorer'.



The role of the Nephilim is a colony ship, the one of the Aquilon is a carrier. This role is not going to change. For either role you do not necessarily need those ships to be a battleship.

P.S: You can't find these NPCs around, that's from my modded installation where I was playing around with mission configurations.

[Zen_Mechanics]

Devs do not decide what a person can do with a ship, as u have said so yourself - everything can be a battleship. Claiming that nephilim MUST be a colonyship because you re-name it and tell me it is doesn't make it a colony ship to me or others. And let me just say this again, this aint about nephilim on its own, I fight to keep these ships because we dont need anymore transports&restrictions, and because I simply want to defend it just as other none-zoners simply wish to take it away. I don't have to explain myself to anyone, yet I choose to - but you keep raising pointless arguements when the truth is out there. This aint about the caps ships, this is about zoner hatred, be honest enough to admit that.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Lythrilux]

This thread evidently isn't getting anywhere, can we flush it to flood?

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[t0l]

No.

I have too many posts in here.

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