(03-07-2014, 10:29 PM)Technogeist Wrote: I am not surprised. In my experience I've noticed active Indy factions tend to be hunted down and griefed until they no longer find the game fun. I would recommend playing with untagged ships and perhaps doing trade convoys if you have the manpower, I'm sure those would be fun if you're looking for RP. Generally, attempt to stay unnoticed and perhaps find some people you like to RP with and hang around their space. Liberty is generally a pretty bad place for quality RP, mostly because it has all the new players that don't know what they're doing, or just don't care. It sounds bad but that's just the reality of Disco. Don't try to point this out and have people fix it though, they'll just bury their fingers in their ears as they usually do. Trick is to avoid getting in to iRP conflicts with the same people/factions often so that you aren't always targeted by them. Good luck in escaping the toxic side!
It is my understanding that the person quoted [DIVINE] above is not a newbie....
We tag because we are proud of our time together as a group griefing new player groups is wrong and so out of RP it is unbelievable, why does the community here put up with it?
I just handed the reins over to my 2IC because this place is not fun at all.
(03-07-2014, 10:28 PM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: ...
First we are not their pilots, second since when have CR| done all the talk for us?
Third I returned fire only after my shields were down.
Fourth So I take it you lead Liberty then?
Fifth your RP sucks
a) Ofc you're not CR|- which is why your pilots actually have to do their own share of RP before engaging into combat
b) Second, this I doubt, as I was engaged by one of your pilots
c) No, I do not lead Liberty, nor am I involved into any liberty-lawful RP
d) Way to go.
Also, I had so far one encounter with you people on this server, and it was below the line of what's minimum standard I'd expect from anyone.
So you coming here complaining about the level of RP shown towards your pilots ingame and otherwise, is a bit of hipocrisy when I look at the encounter I had with your pilots.
(03-07-2014, 10:33 PM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: ...
I just handed the reins over to my 2IC because this place is not fun at all.
You've yet to see what this place is actually capable of doing. If you already give up now, you'll not find the people you'd like to play with, will not find the niche you'll fit in with your group. You'll not be able to take the heat and unwanted critism and you'll more so not be able to evolve your RP to a level it might suit for finding a place within this mod.
(03-07-2014, 10:33 PM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: We tag because we are proud of our time together as a group griefing new player groups is wrong and so out of RP it is unbelievable, why does the community here put up with it?
Yeah, see, you can't just clanstack a roleplaying server.
(03-07-2014, 10:28 PM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: ...
First we are not their pilots, second since when have CR| done all the talk for us?
Third I returned fire only after my shields were down.
Fourth So I take it you lead Liberty then?
Fifth your RP sucks
a) Ofc you're not CR|- which is why your pilots actually have to do their own share of RP before engaging into combat
b) Second, this I doubt, as I was engaged by one of your pilots
c) No, I do not lead Liberty, nor am I involved into any liberty-lawful RP
d) Way to go.
Also, I had so far one encounter with you people on this server, and it was below the line of what's minimum standard I'd expect from anyone.
So you coming here complaining about the level of RP shown towards your pilots ingame and otherwise, is a bit of hipocrisy when I look at the encounter I had with your pilots.
So it is OK to LIE in CHAT?
CR| Gave me permission to kill you?
No CR| anywhere on server
Your Group is now Prohibited from Republic Space, Not the leader? So you have the grunt to make that unilateral decision?
I did fair share of RP by saying you should post a formal request for a fine to be paid to the leadership [HERE?] your reply 30secs........ Bang shooting... As usual with Liberty players they take Liberties with people and angle all conversations toward conflict rather than diplomacy.
First, we do not talk about the same encounter.
Second, I still have had only this one encounter with your group, which I mentioned, bc you referred to a) Coronado and b) the "pirate groups" which both kind of accounts for the faction I flag for.
I actually do -not- know what incident you're on about, but I can tell you already, from what I've witnessed of your group (and here I need to be more precise - I had one encounter that actually involved me into any RP or combat action with your pilots, but I've watched several other encounters where you interacted with others), you've to clean your own ground before you come complaining about anyone else.
(03-07-2014, 10:38 PM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: ...
You are a troll both in game and here so not worth the bother.
And... you're out.
I'd have explained to you even, if you'd have asked, what I was talking about, what situation given that time, what circumstances and the overall behaviour of your pilots, as well as talking to you about the other events I've seen your group doing, but... I think we're done here.
(03-07-2014, 10:44 PM)Divine Wrote: First, we do not talk about the same encounter.
Second, I still have had only this one encounter with your group, which I mentioned, bc you referred to a) Coronado and b) the "pirate groups" which both kind of accounts for the faction I flag for.
I actually do -not- know what incident you're on about, but I can tell you already, from what I've witnessed of your group (and here I need to be more precise - I had one encounter that actually involved me into any RP or combat action with your pilots, but I've watched several other encounters where you interacted with others), you've to clean your own ground before you come complaining about anyone else.
My first reply to your thread was an overall statement about your group.
I gave you a hint, which you didn't got. I take that's my bad for not directly speaking to you as I'd have to talk with a [insert random insult here].
But here's another one: Get your group into line of what is expected by this gaming-community in terms of RP-background and ingame-behaviour, and act accordingly to your once set RP later on. This might cause issues with several players, as RP always does cause those. Everywhere. Anytime. But once you covered your backs, you're good to go.
//Edit: If you do not understand what falls under -RP-background and ingame-behaviour, and act accordingly to your once set RP- I'd suggest actually -asking- the Community for their opinions about that in relation to your group, your ideas and perceptions of what you want your group to be. People will actually provide you with serious and viable critism which you should take and think about.
Let me quickly throw something in the ring here, for those of you quoting how hard your encounters are.
The guy's experience does not suddenly become invalid, only because you had it worse.
Something to keep in mind.
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(03-07-2014, 10:56 PM)sindroms Wrote: ...
The guy's experience does not suddenly become invalid, only because you had it worse.
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Which is true. Yet his experience has to adapt to the environment of this server.
We all know new people, especially if they're coming in with their own band of friends or bringing a -clan- with them, can have a hard time once they hit the wall this community, not denying that, is showing towards instant-kick'in groups.
(03-07-2014, 10:51 PM)Divine Wrote: No mate. And you should've asked that first.
My first reply to your thread was an overall statement about your group.
I gave you a hint, which you didn't got. I take that's my bad for not directly speaking to you as I'd have to talk with a [insert random insult here].
But here's another one: Get your group into line of what is expected by this gaming-community in terms of RP-background and ingame-behaviour, and act accordingly to your once set RP later on. This might cause issues with several players, as RP always does cause those. Everywhere. Anytime. But once you covered your backs, you're good to go.
//Edit: If you do not understand what falls under -RP-background and ingame-behaviour, and act accordingly to your once set RP- I'd suggest actually -asking- the Community for their opinions about that in relation to your group, your ideas and perceptions of what you want your group to be. People will actually provide you with serious and viable critism which you should take and think about.
No disrespect but if you were not involved why dive in?
The level of RP we have come across is 'Robotic'
Pirates Halt.Pay.Fire
Liberty Factions Traders.... Fair game.... Pirates, who may actually do some damage, leave them be.
So far we have met two groups who we can chat to and play in a constructive way, I meet random people who are lovely, but it is the arrogance of the, seeming majority that has no RP.
Halt!
Stop!
Fine! / Toll !
Fire!
no finesse no niceties no banter just bullying covered up with a semblance of RP
Please understand we came here cold from a fairly unmodded server, what attracted us was the volume of the additions and the careful way in which they were included. We have never assumed we are kick ass or whatever, we do have a couple of extremely good dogfighters but Capital Ships are new to us.
We have no expectations nor intent to OWN the server we just want to get on and do our thing which generally involves lots of NPC missions and Duels etc, Bases Cap ships are the icing on the cake for us but we are first and foremost Fighter Jocks.
What I am trying to say is why such animosity from the word go, from our first day on here leaving Erie going through New York to go look around we get pounced on by LN and butt raped from the get go. So we move away from Liberty and try to make a small corner our own just somewhere to muck around and have a laugh on TS.
we trade and our traders are constantly targeted even though we hide their origins, when we send ships to protect them we have muppets declaring war on us for the Whole of Liberty. For what we tried to roleplay 'The fact LN do nothing to protect our freighters, so we escort it ourselves' still our ships get blown away and we get hunted all the way to Coronado by an LN ship and blown away there. Where is the supposed role play in this, maybe a diplomatic exchange? No shoot first and have a laugh about it with our buddies.