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Offline Kazinsal
03-24-2014, 09:00 PM,
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(03-20-2014, 01:13 PM)david.starr Wrote: Yes, Doc, lets 'remake' our chars into nothing more than mere mercenaries that would do bussiness with anyone for a profit. Maybe we can even have some fun and get to shoot down some non-vanilla pseudo-house flagship while we are at it. That would be fun.

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(03-24-2014, 08:38 PM)Daedric Wrote: Or perhaps its time for the admins and developers to pack it in?

As long as Discovery stands -- which, hey, it does -- there will be an administration team and a development team.

Quote:You say that official factions are held to a higher standard.....I'd assume that both the admins and the developers are held to an even higher standard.
Aye, we are.

Quote:I've seen some of the conversations between the Zoner official leaders and admins/devs. Neither side has any room to talk about being rude or insensitive to one another.
And I've seen them as well, and I can guarantee you that the development and administrative team members in those conversations keep it civil. I can't say the same about the other parties.

Quote:Speaking from personal experience with many of the current developers - none of them give to iotas about what the player base wants. They will do what they want to do.

You haven't seen the suggestion box then,

Quote:Myself and a number of other Zoner players offered to rewrite and rebalance Zoner lore for the development team and we were told that it wasn't a high priority and it wouldn't be included. Basically, frack off.

If it's not a priority at the time, of course we're not going to drop everything we're doing and work on it. Do you think we just sit around and wait for someone to bring us something to do?

Quote:So, while I agree with you that the leaders of the official factions need to keep in mind that they are leaders and that they need to behave as such - I'd suggest that you, the admins, and the other developers also keep that in mind. From what I've seen not many of you are keeping that in mind.

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Offline Pavel
03-24-2014, 09:06 PM,
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Almost 70 pages, cba with reading all of that.

Zonerzonerzoner still going on?
Offline t0l
03-24-2014, 09:12 PM,
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I thought it was over.

I was wrong.

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Offline Thyrzul
03-24-2014, 11:44 PM,
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(03-24-2014, 09:00 PM)Kazinsal Wrote: If it's not a priority at the time, of course we're not going to drop everything we're doing and work on it. Do you think we just sit around and wait for someone to bring us something to do?

If a cohesive collection of the Zoner lore, one potentially but not necessarily being able to justify the Zoner shipline is not a priority, how come retconning said shipline became one so suddenly recently (read: a mere month ago)? Sounds a little bit too one-sided when it comes to resolving a certain periodically returning issue.

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Offline Echo 7-7
03-25-2014, 06:47 AM,
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(03-24-2014, 11:44 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:
(03-24-2014, 09:00 PM)Kazinsal Wrote:
Daedric Wrote:Myself and a number of other Zoner players offered to rewrite and rebalance Zoner lore for the development team and we were told that it wasn't a high priority and it wouldn't be included. Basically, frack off.

If it's not a priority at the time, of course we're not going to drop everything we're doing and work on it. Do you think we just sit around and wait for someone to bring us something to do?

If a cohesive collection of the Zoner lore, one potentially but not necessarily being able to justify the Zoner shipline is not a priority, how come retconning said shipline became one so suddenly recently (read: a mere month ago)? Sounds a little bit too one-sided when it comes to resolving a certain periodically returning issue.

Context, context. It might not have been considered a high priority at the time of the offer that Daedric is referring to. That's not the case currently. Also, I think that it's inappropriate to say that the recently published proposed changes to the Zoner ship line were sudden, given the discussion on the matter stretches over many months (across both public and private media).

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Offline Thyrzul
03-25-2014, 07:20 AM,
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(03-25-2014, 06:47 AM)Echo 7-7 Wrote: Also, I think that it's inappropriate to say that the recently published proposed changes to the Zoner ship line were sudden, given the discussion on the matter stretches over many months (across both public and private media).

I think that can fairly depend on who you involved in said discussions, to me from the comments of this thread it turns out that a lot of folks affected by the matter has been excluded from said discussions prior to this announcement, thus to whom this change must been kind of sudden (note: we are still talking about a point in time which happened a month ago).

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Offline 7AlphaOne1
03-25-2014, 07:59 AM,
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I support Thyrzul . we all, too , have a real life, and don have enough time to discuss this all day. considering that, In one month, this.....is disturbing. There will be a point in time when we all will leave the game. until that day, atleast let us enjoy the game and dont force 'Zoners are neutral, so no caps' bulls*** on us. let u all enjoy this game.


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Offline SnakeLancerHaven
04-06-2014, 06:19 PM,
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No, I support the new decision by 100% , those things just look great and awesome 8| Zoners don't need bigger caps Big Grin

But Zoners need these Babies 8||||| THEY HAVE TO COME!!

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Offline Enkidu
04-06-2014, 07:18 PM,
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I've changed my tune.

I'm happy with these changes going ahead and they won't affect my server activity whatsoever.

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Offline t0l
04-07-2014, 01:09 AM,
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That doesn't sound good.

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