Bretonian RP - Stagnant? New Ideas? Pushing the line?

[Vicho Deivis]

The Bretonians were already made to run for their money, and it is a war that they are deemed to lose one day or the other. Unless otherwise the Gallics wish to retreat and stop the war or the Bretonians accept some form of a peace treaty (which literally is surrendering), there is no way that Bretonia can win the war, bar some out-of-nowhere magic happens.

I bet that someone say that in the beginning of the war Vietnam. It didn't end well xD

About the zoners cap...

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[Pavel]

1. I'm afraid Bretonia-hessian neutrality was never part of official disco lore. Recently BAF-hessian rephack was fixed to -0.7 because of that, so if I were BAF/Bretonian player I'd refrain from suggesting lore development on something what exists only in-game (otherwise RNC could claim they conquered "Texasburg", following that logic). In addition, BAF raiding Gamma sounds meh.

2. It's quite wtf to see official BAF players theorizing about independent Dublin handed over to Mollys like it was candy, Graves included. Bretonia is monopolist when it comes to Gold in Sirius, and gets nice cash from that, so I have no idea why do you consider killing ooRP source of activity which Bretonia-Molly conflict is, and giving away inRP vital resources over which you have almost total control.

3. @ Fallen
Friday is no longer here. He also was the one who invented entire "Samura worked with Kishiro (sic!) in Munich, something went wrong and they popped half of the system" thing (LOL). I'd be cautious when it comes to his ideas and using them in arguments.

4. Actually Bretonian lawful players have potentially quite much to do, you just need to log to the game. However, suggested Bretonian surrender wouldn't mean you have nothing to do, or that you (entirely) lost. There would be Corsairs, Mollys, O49 with habitable planet, there would be internal opposition to Gallic occupation (some sort of BAF Exiles attacking BAF loyal to puppet Bretonian goverment)... Surely it wouldn't be end of life for Bretonian factions.

[Sath]

Highland, you are not a dev either, so stop whining, just because your faction will recieve less privileges if this happens. And tell me how you are involved in the "story arc" that you are speaking of?

First of all, don't think that you are above someone else. And assuming that I know nothing, bleh...stop trying to post things that are not even related to OP just because I pointed out the obvious. It is pretty apparent that you whine, just because you play and run a faction that has Bretonian roots.

The most obvious path is this (GRN winning the war against Bretonia), and you just want that not to happen, because of OORP pride and that your faction might be negatively affected due to the most apparent outcome. Since why you are speaking of, and desperate for "alternative" paths. blah blah blah...

[Highland Laddie]

Oh, so now you know my intentions, do you, Mory? This isn't even about privileges, so I don't know why you're going there. And this doesn't even affect Gateway that much either, so stop bringing that up.

I'm in the story arc because I'm in the BAF. That's the big difference between you and me.

Stop assuming that you apparently know everything in regards to the Bret-GRN conflict.

[FallenKnight]

The most obvious path is this (GRN winning the war against Bretonia)

Well it took Gallia the entire .86 in order to pass through jump gate and being fighting 3 fleets. Now they fight a fortress - planet Leeds - being armed and reinforced since the beginning of Kusari war. On top of that GRN ignore Bretonia and move to toe to toe with LN.

How exactly or more direct question is how long do you think you will need to pass through a broken jump gate? Maybe 2-3 expansions...Even if that happens you will be facing more than 6 fleets not 3. Plus LN coming our way.

So...the most obvious path is to attack those that can crush you - LN, and you do that right now. The most not obvious path is to move GRN fleets through the jump holes directly in the asteroid fields with mines and radiation and have fun.

Gallia is indeed strong but considering it couldn't crush Bretonia since 3 expansions do you really belive that once Liberty arrive with all their forces you will have a chance? The most obvious answer is No you wont stand against them at all.

PS: This thread isnt going at the right direction...

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[Sath]

k. You know more than me, fine, let that be it. I dont want to argue over those kind of things. And I don't know anything about Bret-GRN conflict, god forgive me for speaking something which I had no idea of what it was. I play Bretonian characters as well. Fine, playing as an indy means, no part in the story development, k.

As for the OP, if that is what might breathe activity into that part of space, and for factions like GRN, then, why not try it out. That, if you can succeed in making all the opposing parties to accept it.

Also, I am an indy, don't take my voice seriously ;-;

[Sath]

Also, what is the intention of the Gamma raid? Like, will it be a part of a bigger event that is to come, or is it just another pew event in which BAF suddenly go into Gamma and attack what they can?

I dont know much about the first part, since I don't know much about mollys except the fact that they fight getting Dublin and its gold. The third part, if I guess correctly, could be the main storyline advancement of the next version. And if that might happen, what will be the Bretonians response? What will happen to the trading corps?

Everything else seems either fine for me, or I don't know much to debate upon that. Anyway good incentives to a possibly, a more dynamical storyline.

[Omi]

PS: This thread isnt going at the right direction...

This thread hasn't been going in the right direction ever since you decided to stick your oar in and derail every single proposal that isn't 'we sit here for another sixteen mod versions until the devs finally advance a storyline that's been sitting static since the beginning of recorded history'.

Lord knows you need to be kept as far away from Bretonia and its lore development as possible due to your utter inability to see past your own fanatical and inexplicable love for the place. You're literally the most biased person I've ever seen with regards to any faction ever, and it's unfortunate that this particular aspect of your personality has slowly managed to seep into BAF| as a whole over the past months and years. Every single time a thread that so much as hints at Bretonia having its iRP influence reduced or in any way negatively impacted hits the forums, I can always safely bet that you'll show up with Word documents full of sourceless 'facts' and a condescending attitude towards all who would ever dare suggest that Bretonia could ever be anything less than this 300-esque heroic force 'holding the line'.

If I had people in GRN| who were as nuts about Gallia as some of the people in BAF| are about Bretonia, I'd probably have left the faction already due to being thoroughly creeped out.

I don't even know where to begin on the prospect of BAF raiding Gamma. I really don't. Mentioning Friday's name also does precisely frig-all, since Friday has disappeared off the face of the earth and has about as much relevance to storyline development as Paris Hilton does.

You really just come across as extremely out of touch.

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[FallenKnight]

Omicega, I dont give a cup of tea about your personal opinion about me nor anyone else like you. What matters to me is that every single bretonian leader since 2010 and nearly every single member of WC and most bretonian factions respected me for they know that I've done a lot for Bretonia.
Bretonian community was always been stomped. If it wasn't someone to rise and simply talk about the problems, nothing would have changed ever since Dieter left. When a certain party punish BAF with ganks and all members get offended - I was the one to step in and speak from their name. I choose people like you to offend me as long as other people have fun and get something new: being weapon modifications, ship stats change, new ships, systems and more. What matters to me is when bret indie or official gets the new toy to be happy with it, to see that someone care for him.
What you see in forum is most of the time misunderstandings leading to different opinions about the people. What matters is how those you work for treat you and if they are happy about your efforts. Your jokes about my word files are childish. I have opinions about nearly everything in Bretonia not only because I choose this side of Disco for these years but also because I care for the players and saw they dont get the attention they need.
If you dont care for your faction's future or House - in this game - that's your decision. But be sure that if you work hard and take all offenses on your back for the sake of others - these other people will appreciate your efforts. That is all that matters here.

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[Omi]

Again, I really don't think you 'get it'. That, or you're just flat out up-the-wall crazy.

If you dont care for your faction's future or House - in this game - that's your decision.

What the hell are you even trying to say? HELLO, this is a role playing game. You're meant to be able to distinguish between what happens in-roleplay and out-of-roleplay, not blend the two into one ungodly mess like you have. Blood Dragon players aren't meant to have a fanatical hatred for each and every person who plays [KNF]. Unfortunately, the number of BAF| players who don't think the GRN| is 'out to get them' can probably be counted on one hand. I even see BAF| members logging on to the Disco Teamspeak and then immediately logging out, presumably because they're scared that the big spooky folks down in the Bar (some of whom, shock and horror, play Gallic characters - one of them is even the faction leader!) will pop up to the lobby and start hurling abuse at the hated Bretonians.

Except that's not what would happen, because we're not all reading from a cult of personality centred around disapproval of the players roleplaying as the opposing side. Maybe if I was French, things would be different, right?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but that's the attitude being exuded here, and I am approximately 100 billion percent sure that I'm not the only one who gets this feeling.

I hate to break it to you, mate, but there is no competition between Gallia and Bretonia over who can accumulate the most fun for their own side and deny it from the other. I'm actually trying to work with BAF|'s faction leader here (God forbid), and I'd appreciate it if you could do something conducive to those efforts rather than treading out the same-old, same-old diatribe you've rolled out for anyone you've perceived as 'anti-Bretonia' for the last God-knows-how-long.

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