Bretonian RP - Stagnant? New Ideas? Pushing the line?

[Cashew]

Or just teaching us a few tricks or something..

I'm always happy to teach what little I can. You can poke me on Skype (quicquid) or PM, or whatever method of contact floats your boat. I don't purport to be a decent teacher, or even anywhere near being a PvP "ace", though. Or, you could poke your nose into the Disco TeamSpeak, which occasionally gets very Conn-happy (such as right now, at the time of writing - nearly all of us are poking around in Connecticut)

Splitting skilled players between each side would help, but the main problem is the weaker targets will still be the first to pop no matter what, as a the pilots who are overall less able in PvP are generally the easiest to kill in a groupfight too, and will be weeded out accordingly.

That sounds good, I'll speak to a few people in the BAF| about it

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[Thyrzul]

Been away for three days, fourth day almost completely without net, now nearing the end of the day I'll just reply to one piece of... idunnowhat...

So I will tell you about a new events:

1) Liberty, Bretonia, Mollys, Colonials join hands and with their best super minds and while the scientists think of a way to close a jump hole, the navies push back the GRN to Gallia and then close the hole. Same is done in Omicron Alpha with raiding the "ruthless" Outcasts in the process. Of course, some treaty will be signed not to use that knowledge ever again so it would be RP wise not to close additional holes, which seem to disappear in time anyway.
All the GRN forces left behind are to become some kind of gentlemen pirates or meet some other fate.
The Council and their gallic allies will adapt and unite with the colonial republic like a department or a part of the republic or adapt somewhere in Liberty( as it seems to be a multicultural republic).

2)
Some crazy Ion Storm comes and wipes half of the jump holes in Gallia leaving place for 2 options:
a) Half the jump holes in Gallia get unstable and disappear, and the systems become unreachable, thus Gallia remains with 4-5 systems.
b) The Storm wipes the jump holes to the Sirius sector leaving aftermaths like the one I pointed in section 1.


Meanwhile RHEINLAND STRONK!!!!! Rheinland organizes its forces as well as Kusari. I leave it to your imagination what will happen next.

Underlined parts are utterly stupid and/or unlikely to happen, at least not while I'm around.

Reading the rest of the thread and replying accordingly will happen tomorrow. Cya l8r.

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[Thyrzul]

Whew, finally got through the entire thread...

Echo 7-7. I am aware of the plan for the next few updates story wise for the Bret-Gallic war. If you could contact me on Skype, I'd be happy to discuss such with you.

Wow, actual storyline development plans, of which even Echo don't know about... Care to share?

Do you seriously think, once/if Gallia defeats Bretonia, that it ill allow the Mollys to have Dublin for themselves? Gallia is in need of raw materials and somehow a way to pay for the War machine. All that will be happening will be you will be swapping on antagonist for another.

And with their possible alliance with the Corsairs the Mollys will be squashed like a small bug.

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Apart from this, I haven't really seen anyone bringing up the subject of Gallia highly being in need of resources. Many think that simply because Gallia started a Blitzkrieg with a massive force, they will last long, and many forget what was the real reason behind attacking Sirius.

Gallia needs resources and they need them now, meaning it is in their favor to gain as much as possible as quickly as possible in this war. With Taus and Leeds under their control they can expand economically and save their war machine from exhaustion, but that won't be enough on the long run. It is to be expected that once they dealt with Bretonia, Dublin is next.

However, while the extreme need for acquiring resources might be the real cause of the war, the public knowledge is that Gallia is having a revenge on Bretonia and Liberty. Simply because of this knowledge, neither the Mollys are to logically expect GRN turning on them and break their NAP after they are done with Bretonia, nor Bretonia are to logically expect Gallia wanting anything less than their capital crushed and the queen's head on a silver plate handed to them in exchange for a surrender. If I were a real patriot Bretonian, surrendering wouldn't even cross my mind.

In short, it's seemingly illogical to propose a surrender given the expectable terms from Gallic side, illogical to make a raid on Gamma when GRN is a higher threat (why not raid Taus?), and illogical to offer peace to Mollys after their siding with GRN. Of course that doesn't mean that the expected results/goals couldn't be achieved in other ways.

If Bretonia decides to reorganize their assets by taking forces from Dublin, Inverness, and such less significant places in order to join their forces with LN, C, CR, KE, etc on a strike on the Taus, that would mean BAF caring about one less enemy, give a raid opportunity for them in the Taus and lightened garrison in Dublin would give a conquer opportunity for Mollys.

If the Tau strike succeeds, so will the Mollys, Dublin is under Molly control, and the faction has reached their lore goal, but at the same time GRN forces are cut off from Gallia, and while the rest of the anti-GRN league finishes them off, Bretonia can return to her Dublin issue (again, this way no fighting with GRN). The only things that changed are the ownership of Dublin and that while Mollys aimed for reconquista, their goal now is to defend Dublin, the BAF-Molly hostilities stay in effect regardless.

Just2cents.

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[Highland Laddie]

I was thinking along those lines as well, Thyr.

+1

[Apollon]

Whew, finally got through the entire thread...

Apart from this, I haven't really seen anyone bringing up the subject of Gallia highly being in need of resources. Many think that simply because Gallia started a Blitzkrieg with a massive force, they will last long, and many forget what was the real reason behind attacking Sirius.

Gallia needs resources and they need them now, meaning it is in their favor to gain as much as possible as quickly as possible in this war. With Taus and Leeds under their control they can expand economically and save their war machine from exhaustion, but that won't be enough on the long run. It is to be expected that once they dealt with Bretonia, Dublin is next.

However, while the extreme need for acquiring resources might be the real cause of the war, the public knowledge is that Gallia is having a revenge on Bretonia and Liberty. Simply because of this knowledge, neither the Mollys are to logically expect GRN turning on them and break their NAP after they are done with Bretonia, nor Bretonia are to logically expect Gallia wanting anything less than their capital crushed and the queen's head on a silver plate handed to them in exchange for a surrender. If I were a real patriot Bretonian, surrendering wouldn't even cross my mind.

In short, it's seemingly illogical to propose a surrender given the expectable terms from Gallic side, illogical to make a raid on Gamma when GRN is a higher threat (why not raid Taus?), and illogical to offer peace to Mollys after their siding with GRN. Of course that doesn't mean that the expected results/goals couldn't be achieved in other ways.

If Bretonia decides to reorganize their assets by taking forces from Dublin, Inverness, and such less significant places in order to join their forces with LN, C, CR, KE, etc on a strike on the Taus, that would mean BAF caring about one less enemy, give a raid opportunity for them in the Taus and lightened garrison in Dublin would give a conquer opportunity for Mollys.

If the Tau strike succeeds, so will the Mollys, Dublin is under Molly control, and the faction has reached their lore goal, but at the same time GRN forces are cut off from Gallia, and while the rest of the anti-GRN league finishes them off, Bretonia can return to her Dublin issue (again, this way no fighting with GRN). The only things that changed are the ownership of Dublin and that while Mollys aimed for reconquista, their goal now is to defend Dublin, the BAF-Molly hostilities stay in effect regardless.

Just2cents.

+1 one on everything however, a little comment.

Bretonia should lose focus on Leeds for now, as it should only be a Marchent Navy focus, represented by taking refugees/casualties out of Leeds, and supplying the resistance.
Having LN, KE, C, CR strike on Taus to weaken the supplies from there, BAF could also launch an attack on Edinburgh - which is a lowly protected system, now that the battleship is in Leeds. the main target would be Perth station that is the supplies cache for the Gallics in Leeds. Cutting the supply lines from both sides (Taus and Edinburgh) would weaken the gallic forces in Leeds, both in space and on planet. and by time.

Just a thought.

[Thyrzul]

Oh, you are right, I totally forgot about the Edinburgh-Lewis path. Of course hitting GRN supply lines that way is also a good idea.

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[Blodwyn O'Driscoll]

Well, the brets won't probably use their forces in Dundee to enter Edi', after allt here is the Battleship Castres'fleet in Edinburg awaing for them, moreover, they would be defenseless in Dundee.Losing this system would mean letting the gauls enter newcastle, something they can't allow.

Do you seriously think, once/if Gallia defeats Bretonia, that it ill allow the Mollys to have Dublin for themselves? Gallia is in need of raw materials and somehow a way to pay for the War machine. All that will be happening will be you will be swapping on antagonist for another.

And with their possible alliance with the Corsairs the Mollys will be squashed like a small bug.

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The Mollys are not allied with Gallia, and i'm pretty sure they do not count on Gallia to achieve their primary goal of freeing Dublin.

Simply because of this knowledge, neither the Mollys are to logically expect GRN turning on them and break their NAP after they are done with Bretonia.

A thing that the Mollys are doing for sure, is exactly expecting the gauls to turn on them, once they're done with the brets'. at least once New London is taken.
First of all, Mollys don't have any trust in strangers ( and i would add especially from expantionists kingdoms ), and Dublin is the only place in sirius where you can find it.
Therefore the Molly exepect to be attacked sooner or later.

The things is the Mollys think this NAP is freeing all mollys forces to fight the brets who are still in Dublin ( The Coin allow them not to waste their strength fighting the 'sairs ) .
As the Bretonian amirality didn't think ( or wanted ) to use the 6th fleet ( essex ) to hold Leeds, the Mollys will probably use all forces available to take Graves or Destroy it, before the Gaul could invade what's left of Bretonia.

Without Graves, so without being able to use the gold for their own profit, the Mollys hope that the bret would rethink their entire Diplomacy toward the mollys.At least they wouldn't defend a system they can't use, and destroy the gate to NL.



Anyway, just saying that the Mollys plot didnot evolve since 4.85, whille we've seen the wars front of Bretonia against Kusari and then gallia shifting numerous times, we even seen the brets colonising sprague ( surprisingly with ease ).

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That is the crux of the matter.
If you aid us, and you aid them, you are the enemy.
If you do not aid them, you are worthless outside of extortion potential.
If you aid us, you will be treated with respect.

Colin H. Breen, of the Molly Republic

[Fluffyball]

I believe Galllia might create a puppet Bretonian Republic/Kingdom. You know, Vichy Bretonia or something like that. Why? Well, there must be people tired of all the war between Gallia and Bretonia.

From my point of view, if I were Gallia, I would make this movement: help Mollys, because they have their own pilots - just give them some toys and babble about supporting their freedom, with no real GRN presence in Dublin. And later possible trade between new Dublin Republic and Kingdom of Gallia, after Bretonian influence in Dublin came to zero. That worked with Banana Republics IRL.

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[Vicho Deivis]

The hole to Endimburg from Dundee is well defended, but the connection between Dundee and Lewis is not, there is onle Sandur base on the Lewis side but it's a bit far. I trying to motivate people to make a raid or something but no one listens to me -.-"

The GRN have a suply depot in Lewis*, it was more important before the fall of Leeds but it still is a big target. The station description say that it's for fuel and spare parts for all the front, so if it destroyed the GRN will feel it.

To avoid powergaming, someone only have to scout the system and see the cargo hold of the NPC, a few of them carry deuterium. A job for the Bretonian Inteligence service I belive.

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[Blodwyn O'Driscoll]

The hole to Endimburg from Dundee is well defended, but the connection between Dundee and Lewis is not, there is onle Sandur base on the Lewis side but it's a bit far. I trying to motivate people to make a raid or something but no one listens to me -.-"

The GRN have a suply depot in Lewis*, it was more important before the fall of Leeds but it still is a big target. The station description say that it's for fuel and spare parts for all the front, so if it destroyed the GRN will feel it.

To avoid powergaming, someone only have to scout the system and see the cargo hold of the NPC, a few of them carry deuterium. A job for the Bretonian Inteligence service I belive.

One word : battleship Betheny's fleet.

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That is the crux of the matter.
If you aid us, and you aid them, you are the enemy.
If you do not aid them, you are worthless outside of extortion potential.
If you aid us, you will be treated with respect.

Colin H. Breen, of the Molly Republic