Boosting Away From A Fight

[Muleo]

OK please, very very very last post here, please start a new thread if you want to continue.

By your flying and your behavior I can precisely say that you know exactly how good those mines are.
Or else you wouldn't go in that mine field every time I hit you with SN.
And you wouldn't stay in that mine-field until you get your shield back.

I honestly didn't, the fight with you guys was the first time I've fought in omega 5, the only other two mine fields I encountered are, the one in New York, around the alaska jumpgate, and the one in Omicron Eta, and obsviously I stayed clear of both. I only pass through Om5 to go to Cambridge, and I never noticed mines hurting people who were in formation with me :S

Again, one last time, my complaint wasn't that you just boosted away, of course that makes sense, if you're fighters and theres a battleship for example, try to take the fight into an asteroid field,

But what I was complaining is that in the first fight, you thrustered way out, then you didn't really respond to me saying you were out, then you came back but didn't engage. Giving me the impression that you were out of the fight, then you joined.

In the second fight, after you went away from Cadiz, you killed NPC, which is ok in it's own right, but then you tractored in all the bots. I am not complaining so much about the boosting away itself, but what happened afterwards.

You attacked RHA on two threads as well as 3 times in-game. Now that is disgusting!

For that I apologise, but you must at least understand what was ticking me off?
If I was killed by skill, I'm in awe, if I was killed by being outnumbered, I say I was unlucky, if I was killed by loopholes in the rules, I'm frustrated.

I probably overreacted, and it was wrong of me to post about the RHA (well actually i think i said hessians, but I guess I should have left out any references whatsoever), and I apologize for that.



BTW, in case you don't know, Cadiz in Omega 5 is the homebase of the OPG, that's why you'll see me running the moment I see Hessians on om5

[Edge]

Penis waving contest... to quote someone here.

[Reverend Del]

Penis waving contest... to quote someone here.

*hears the faint sound of being quoted*

Nah this isn't a penis waving contest, this is just shy of flame thrower warfare. It is however barely relevant, I feel.

As it stands, if you boost out of scanner range you are out of the fight, if you get out of scanner range by any means you are out of the fight, if you engage cruise for any reason you are out of the fight, you don't even have to leave scanner range for that to take effect. If they didn't cruise and you can still see em on your HUD, they are still in the fight, no matter what your personal opinions on the matter.

As for hanging back til the fighter goes pop, sound and valid tactic. Take advantage of the confusion. Next time you'll know.

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[Muleo]

OK, another thing i've been wondering about, what about starting cruise, but not actually going into cruise?

[Freedom Defense]

You shouldn't have to leave the system. That makes no sense. You should just have to not get near or attack the guy that killed you. And if you attack him then he can report you. You definetely should not have to leave the system that is so dumb.

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[Reverend Del]

You shouldn't have to leave the system. That makes no sense. You should just have to not get near or attack the guy that killed you. And if you attack him then he can report you. You definetely should not have to leave the system that is so dumb.

And just how do you police that idea? The basic concept is to ensure that for the next 4 hours you don't get mad and go for OORP revenge, you take four hours timeout and do something else. If you're not in the same system you're not tempted to go running back into combat when you shouldn't. No it's not an RP rule, it's a common sense rule. Basically, stay frosty and you won't get sanctioned.

As for starting cruise, I'm not so sure. If you're against me I won't report you until I hear the full blown whine of cruise engines, the charge sound won't get you reported. It's quite easy to engage cruise engines by accident.

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Saint Del is considered a holy healer of diseases of children, but also as a protector of cattle.

[Souseiseki]

And just how do you police that idea? The basic concept is to ensure that for the next 4 hours you don't get mad and go for OORP revenge, you take four hours timeout and do something else. If you're not in the same system you're not tempted to go running back into combat when you shouldn't. No it's not an RP rule, it's a common sense rule. Basically, stay frosty and you won't get sanctioned.

As for starting cruise, I'm not so sure. If you're against me I won't report you until I hear the full blown whine of cruise engines, the charge sound won't get you reported. It's quite easy to engage cruise engines by accident.

Well to this I don't know how it would be OORP to run away then come back to fight, against the rules, but not oorp.

But here is my question, can I use cruise to start a fight? Or perhaps in pursuit of someone who is over a certain distance? I see no reason that you shouldn't be able to cruise to catch up to someone who is fleeing... I've flown everything on private servers. A cap ship cannot catch someone who is E-killing away, but that person can run away, come back, and fight again.

And besides, in anything smaller than a cap ship... you can dodge anything they can shoot, and since you are really fleeing anyway, you can use your cruise until your pursuer runs out of CD. Easy. Or simply turn around, feint a joust, and start your cruise from behind them, they generally can't turn fast enough to catch you if you do it right.

[Freedom Defense]

Okay people need to calm down. No one should report someone for charging their cruise engines by accident. That is ridiculous. You mine as well report them for looking at you wrong. People calm down this is a game remember?

Also ok um I think we defintely should be allowed to return to the system or shorten the time limit down. Four hours???? Sorry I have a life!!!! I can't sit and wait for four hours Jesus Christ!!! As long as you don't attack you should be allowed to. And how I say to police the idea??? Um how are all other ideas policed??? By reporting and sanctioning!!!!!!!!! Wow this is not that hard. This is not hard guys. Wow.

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[timmychen]

Okay people need to calm down. No one should report someone for charging their cruise engines by accident. That is ridiculous. You mine as well report them for looking at you wrong. People calm down this is a game remember?

Also ok um I think we defintely should be allowed to return to the system or shorten the time limit down. Four hours???? Sorry I have a life!!!! I can't sit and wait for four hours Jesus Christ!!! As long as you don't attack you should be allowed to. And how I say to police the idea??? Um how are all other ideas policed??? By reporting and sanctioning!!!!!!!!! Wow this is not that hard. This is not hard guys. Wow.

Uh, no. I'm sure many people would love taking potshots at the person they just ran away from, and then run away yet again. And then keep going. So on.

It may not be an RP-ish rule, but it's a necessary one to keep things in order.

[Jinx]

people must stop thinking of reporting someone for a violation as a "winning situation". there are people that take joy in reporting others. - but should realize that each report is basicly a situation where everyone looses, cause its a general failure of how a community should work.



the very most situations can be solved without reports, even if there HAS been re-engagement or a violation. a report and interuption causes more ooRPness than simply going on. of course there is a limit to what someone can take - aswell as an unwillingness of some players to adhere to the rules in favour for personal advantages. but a simple "left the scanner range for a few seconds" or an accidental cruise shouldn t be reported right away. ( in my opinion, - ... i have once cried out"//you cruised, you must not re-engage me again" in a fight, when the other one activated his cruise engines, not even to catch me up... .. but i felt utterly embarrassed shortly afterwards and pretty silly, cause it was just such a wrong thing to to )

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