Star Wars: Force Awakens Teaser #2

[Tarator]

Yeah...The Phantom Menace looked good, too, if we just went by the trailers. I'm gonna reserve judgement until I see the movie.

I second this.
But tbh I don't expect anything special, in fact disney has a good chance of ruining it and that won't be surprising.
Lucas have said it himself that after almost 50 years, he wouldn't be able to continue with another movie, some things just have to have an end, otherwise they'd be ruined, and if Lucas with all his experience realized it, I wouldn't seed hope for disney.

P.S. "The Force Awakens" sounds incredibly lame

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[Lythrilux]

Are we really gonna start inserting random black people in Starwars films just for the sake of race equality or something? S.L.Jackson was more than enough. That guy looks completely out of place and, literally, the only thing we saw from him so far is him taking off his helmet and doing this expression and sweating a lot. Why.

He's not randomly inserted, he's just another actor. I thought he was pretty decent in Attack The Block.

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[Fluffyball]

Are we really gonna start inserting random black people in Starwars films just for the sake of race equality or something?

What's wrong with that? Humanity is humanity after all, with all traits and stuff. It should be obvious that on certain planets people would be different. For example, a lot of characters in KOTOR were Negro or Latino, even Asian (like one of my Exiles in KOTOR2).

I think galaxy shown (even though it is "Long Time Ago") in Star Wars is past "pseudo-racial" nonsense and humanity treats humanity as one - only socio-political and social issues still remain.

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[Jam]

Seen the trailer, but I'm not going to judge until I see it. If I will see it, probably I will sooner or later. Visually it's great, of course.

But damn, what have they done to the lightsabre? O.o I liked the minimalistic approach more. (mostly referring to the first teaser now)

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[jammi]

Honestly, I hold out a lot of hope for the Disney films. Lucas butchered the prequels because he was a megalomaniac who produced what he thought people liked about the old films. As it happens, those films turned out well because there were a large number of people ready and willing to shut down his stupid ideas when he went off the rails.

Following the success of the original Star Wars films, Lucas got the lion's share of the credit, giving him a demi-god like reputation. After that, the production teams were full of sycophantic yes-men, because the movie studios were willing to bend over backwards to give their golden goose whatever it wanted. Queue the prequels.

Now you've got a team of people producing it who are passionate about the film because they were fans of the originals and really understand why they enjoyed them. They're not just trying to rebottle a firework they let off by accident. Honestly, all of the best Star Wars materials (originals, extended universe/games) have all either relied on Lucas being either heavily policed, disinterested in the project or entirely un-involved.

Personally I'm looking forward to where they're taking this, and with the director they've got and the resources of Disney, the production value should be amazing at the very least.

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[Strichev]

It's not like anyone ever watched Star Wars due to the insanely complex story. Hell, if I want a deep story, I read a book. Star Wars has always been more of a fairy tale in space.

We'll see some great cinematography, wonderful FX possible in the second decade of the 21st century. The story is going to be sort of "meh", but let's just hope they'll at least try to depict the empire in a more human way. I'm somewhat sceptical about the lacklustre PG-13 rating.

I'm tired of films being showed into this "all audiences" mould. It's superficial and rather hypocritical. I mean, it's as if it's OK for kids to see heads and limbs flying around like leaves on an autumn day, but blood is a no-go. Take the Hobbit for example. Because certainly if you chop someone's head off (on a frozen lake no less!) there is not a trace of blood. Come on! Stylised violence & whatnot is worse than a bit of realism. But no, PG 13. This "let's make a compromise" attitude is starting to really shine in its rapaciously dollar gobbling way.

In the end we get loads films that can't deal with more serious matters (and would really benefit from some question inspiring gore), plus a load of films that should be rated R but wind up with stylised violence instead.

JJ seems to love the "gloomier" side of things; something especially notable in his Star Trek films. But I have a feeling he's being held back by the quest for PG 13 rating. He doesn't seem to know how to make PG rated films work, thus, in the end, his PG 13 films get stuck halfway between R and PG. He can't do things his way and can't make the PG parts work.

I'm assuming we all are a bit too embittered to enjoy Jar Jar style nonsense in one scene and massive space battles with people getting fried in another. As kids we could enjoy Star Wars (as will today's kids, no doubt about that) but nowadays it just won't - it just can't - live up to the memories we have formed.

So, to make old fans happy it would have to be a much darker, R rated film. But no, all of us will go there expecting a mesmerising experience just like we had all those years ago and end up disappointed. The kids will love it though. Years later they'll be in the same position as we are right now.

[nOmnomnOm]

Gonna be bad if this is all they can come up with for a trailer !

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[Highland Laddie]

It's not like anyone ever watched Star Wars due to the insanely complex story. Hell, if I want a deep story, I read a book. Star Wars has always been more of a fairy tale in space.

We'll see some great cinematography, wonderful FX possible in the second decade of the 21st century. The story is going to be sort of "meh", but let's just hope they'll at least try to depict the empire in a more human way. I'm somewhat sceptical about the lacklustre PG-13 rating.

I'm tired of films being showed into this "all audiences" mould. It's superficial and rather hypocritical. I mean, it's as if it's OK for kids to see heads and limbs flying around like leaves on an autumn day, but blood is a no-go. Take the Hobbit for example. Because certainly if you chop someone's head off (on a frozen lake no less!) there is not a trace of blood. Come on! Stylised violence & whatnot is worse than a bit of realism. But no, PG 13. This "let's make a compromise" attitude is starting to really shine in its rapaciously dollar gobbling way.

In the end we get loads films that can't deal with more serious matters (and would really benefit from some question inspiring gore), plus a load of films that should be rated R but wind up with stylised violence instead.

JJ seems to love the "gloomier" side of things; something especially notable in his Star Trek films. But I have a feeling he's being held back by the quest for PG 13 rating. He doesn't seem to know how to make PG rated films work, thus, in the end, his PG 13 films get stuck halfway between R and PG. He can't do things his way and can't make the PG parts work.

I'm assuming we all are a bit too embittered to enjoy Jar Jar style nonsense in one scene and massive space battles with people getting fried in another. As kids we could enjoy Star Wars (as will today's kids, no doubt about that) but nowadays it just won't - it just can't - live up to the memories we have formed.

So, to make old fans happy it would have to be a much darker, R rated film. But no, all of us will go there expecting a mesmerising experience just like we had all those years ago and end up disappointed. The kids will love it though. Years later they'll be in the same position as we are right now.

I think you've touched on part of the problem. I loved SW as a kid partially because it seemed more cool and "grown up" despite being a science fiction movie. It didn't matter the PG rating. You even saw a guy's bloody, dismembered arm and it wasn't that bad.

The problem with the prequel trilogy is that they tried to "dumb it down" to be appealing for children instead of making it appeal to adults. Kids more often find grown up stuff cool, not the opposite. And it's not just Jar Jar. Carefully look at the portrayals of R2D2 and C-3PO in the original trilogy and the prequels, and they made them seem less like a Laurel & Hardy style comedy duo and more like SpongeBob & Patrick. And that's even ignoring the seemingly ridiculous plot points that make it hard to take those films serious.

And I don't think the film needs to be "dark" or R-rated to be good either. It needs good story-telling, good acting, good music, and good directing. Taking Lucas out of the picture certainly puts them on a better footing.

[jammi]

Generally speaking, R rating is granted for explicit gore or sexuality. You don't need either for a good film, which is more reliant on the aspects HL mentioned above. It's also funny when people think that PG-13 would be the film's downfall when the original films were positively quaint PGs.

Honestly, so long as the use the universe's assets well, it's fun to watch and I leave entertained, I'm happy.

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[Highland Laddie]

Generally speaking, R rating is granted for explicit gore or sexuality. You don't need either for a good film, which is more reliant on the aspects HL mentioned above. It's also funny when people think that PG-13 would be the film's downfall when the original films were positively quaint PGs.

Exactly! Go back and watch any late 70's and early 80's movies and you'll discover that PG in the 80's would be PG-13 or more in today's ratings.

Heck...E.T. was directly marketed as a family film and it has the words "sh*t," "d*mn" "b**ch" and "penis breath" in it. Great decade to grow up in!